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pluteus species ID request
    #19013857 - 10/22/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi all,

Pretty confident these are pluteus, but would like one of the resident experts to confirm which species.  I suspect cervinus but would like to be surer.

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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19013883 - 10/22/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pluteus.html
This key will be very helpful in determining the species you've found.


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19013907 - 10/22/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yes, thanks for the link, its the one i use... and

sorta tastes like radishes....

i just wanted a confirmation from a mod


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19014342 - 10/22/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are the gills free?


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
    #19014398 - 10/22/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look free IMO.
Looks like Pluteus cervinus group although they aren't usually clustered like that.


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19014405 - 10/22/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Probably Pluteus, but species identification requires a microscope.

How are the forms of the lamellar cystidia?  Does the pileipellis have clamp connections?


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19014455 - 10/22/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
    #19014678 - 10/22/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Are the gills free?




Hi Joie,

Yes, the gills are free.  More aged specimens at the site had pink gills.

The grouping could be a result of some serious sawdust to work with, it was slabwood covered in sawdust to form a ramp

I was kinda excited to actually eat these (in stew) seeing how, for once, i actually found something before the bugs did.


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19014695 - 10/22/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Probably Pluteus, but species identification requires a microscope.

How are the forms of the lamellar cystidia?  Does the pileipellis have clamp connections?




over my head technically, but give me a year...

would you know how local colleges feel about folks dropping in to use their scopes lol (i'd do it if they let me)


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19014697 - 10/22/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:smile: Cool, thanks for settling that.


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
    #19014715 - 10/22/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?




moi?


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19014732 - 10/22/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?





FAN keys are good but if I was working on one I would speak directly with Fredo & Vellinga.

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would you know how local colleges feel about folks dropping in to use their scopes lol (i'd do it if they let me)




Usually it works out pretty well, I have had very good luck doing this.

Last year I was working on one and I kept posting pics of cheilo and Else kept telling me that those were pleuro.  After 3 go arounds with this Else told me to keep scoping the gill edges until there were no gill edges left, lol....


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
    #19014825 - 10/22/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i'm sorry i didn't upload a pic of a bigger one where it was more obvious, thank *you* for verifying

many were growing solitarily but there were a few big clumps

the one with the lighter was immense



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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19014844 - 10/22/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That looks like a hell of a place to put Psilocybe/Gymnopilus spores/spawn.


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19015017 - 10/22/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol yes, i'll have to actually find some first :wink:

you should see the piles of sawdust... two stories high

i did lob a few of these pluteus up on the side of one.

speaking of which... i DO have some spores from another post i had a week or so ago, bloodworm was ambivalent, and despite checking the spot, no new fruit.
that said, i have a baggie with quite a few spores in it i saved in case he asked.  the collection bag was coated and when they dried they dropped off nicely into a powder in the corner.


mycowalt was just a few miles away last week (from posts on MO,) too bad i couldn't have asked him lol

this was the first time i've ventured on this site, it was um.. unsanctioned but i couldn't resist.  for now i look forward to spring?


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19015045 - 10/22/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

blablabla


Edited by RuralAnomaly (11/02/13 09:21 PM)


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19077235 - 11/02/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

for the sake of anyone trying to ID in the future, I'm adding to my old post now that I think I have the species narrowed down.  Sorry if its not good form, but on revision i feel these are Pluteus petasatus

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pluteus_petasatus.html

no micro to confirm, but the above fits very well


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19077473 - 11/02/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I find Pluteus cervinus like those ones all the time but never in a cluster like them! Cool!!! Nice finds OP and yes definitely do something with that area it prime!


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: xfsketch]
    #19077479 - 11/02/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You know what I would spread there? Pluteus salinicus :wink:


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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: xfsketch]
    #19077546 - 11/02/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

got spores???? :wink:


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