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RuralAnomaly
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pluteus species ID request
#19013857 - 10/22/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi all,
Pretty confident these are pluteus, but would like one of the resident experts to confirm which species. I suspect cervinus but would like to be surer.
Thanks
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maynardjameskeenan
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http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pluteus.html This key will be very helpful in determining the species you've found.
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RuralAnomaly
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yes, thanks for the link, its the one i use... and
sorta tastes like radishes....
i just wanted a confirmation from a mod
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Joie


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Are the gills free?
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
#19014398 - 10/22/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look free IMO. Looks like Pluteus cervinus group although they aren't usually clustered like that.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Probably Pluteus, but species identification requires a microscope.
How are the forms of the lamellar cystidia? Does the pileipellis have clamp connections?
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Gravija
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Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
#19014678 - 10/22/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Joie said: Are the gills free?
Hi Joie,
Yes, the gills are free. More aged specimens at the site had pink gills.
The grouping could be a result of some serious sawdust to work with, it was slabwood covered in sawdust to form a ramp
I was kinda excited to actually eat these (in stew) seeing how, for once, i actually found something before the bugs did.
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RuralAnomaly
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: Probably Pluteus, but species identification requires a microscope.
How are the forms of the lamellar cystidia? Does the pileipellis have clamp connections?
over my head technically, but give me a year...
would you know how local colleges feel about folks dropping in to use their scopes lol (i'd do it if they let me)
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Joie


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Cool, thanks for settling that.
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
#19014715 - 10/22/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gravija said: Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?
moi?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Quote:
Gravija said: Are you using European keys or did Fredo hook you up with a sneak peek?
FAN keys are good but if I was working on one I would speak directly with Fredo & Vellinga.
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RuralAnomaly said: would you know how local colleges feel about folks dropping in to use their scopes lol (i'd do it if they let me)
Usually it works out pretty well, I have had very good luck doing this.
Last year I was working on one and I kept posting pics of cheilo and Else kept telling me that those were pleuro. After 3 go arounds with this Else told me to keep scoping the gill edges until there were no gill edges left, lol....
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: Joie]
#19014825 - 10/22/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm sorry i didn't upload a pic of a bigger one where it was more obvious, thank *you* for verifying
many were growing solitarily but there were a few big clumps
the one with the lighter was immense
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Alan Rockefeller
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That looks like a hell of a place to put Psilocybe/Gymnopilus spores/spawn.
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RuralAnomaly
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lol yes, i'll have to actually find some first
you should see the piles of sawdust... two stories high
i did lob a few of these pluteus up on the side of one.
speaking of which... i DO have some spores from another post i had a week or so ago, bloodworm was ambivalent, and despite checking the spot, no new fruit. that said, i have a baggie with quite a few spores in it i saved in case he asked. the collection bag was coated and when they dried they dropped off nicely into a powder in the corner.
mycowalt was just a few miles away last week (from posts on MO,) too bad i couldn't have asked him lol
this was the first time i've ventured on this site, it was um.. unsanctioned but i couldn't resist. for now i look forward to spring?
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RuralAnomaly
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blablabla
Edited by RuralAnomaly (11/02/13 09:21 PM)
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RuralAnomaly
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for the sake of anyone trying to ID in the future, I'm adding to my old post now that I think I have the species narrowed down. Sorry if its not good form, but on revision i feel these are Pluteus petasatus
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pluteus_petasatus.html
no micro to confirm, but the above fits very well
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xfsketch
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I find Pluteus cervinus like those ones all the time but never in a cluster like them! Cool!!! Nice finds OP and yes definitely do something with that area it prime!
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xfsketch
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: xfsketch]
#19077479 - 11/02/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You know what I would spread there? Pluteus salinicus
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: pluteus species ID request [Re: xfsketch]
#19077546 - 11/02/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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got spores????
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