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    #19013629 - 10/22/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so while i wait for my first grow to colonize i decided to start my 2nd grow

i decided to go with pp5 plastic this time..


i have wayyy too much verm left lol.



im using a 2:1:1 verm:brf:water mixture.


I fill my plastic tubs 7/8 full then add a dry verm layer


after i put two holes in the top i covered with foil


NOW its ready for sterilization. i steam sterilize for 2 hours.


im using a diluted spore syringe. they claim its paurto rican but who cares about "strains". after my first grow is done i will pick an isolate.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19013702 - 10/22/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

very nice, can't wait to see how the Tupperware turns out  :awebig:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19013723 - 10/22/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DynGBreeD actually suggested the tupperware.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19013758 - 10/22/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you did skip a picture of where and how you inoculated them though. yes, i can imagine, but this is science. i want evidence.

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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19013768 - 10/22/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol they are still steam sterilizing. still got another hour to go.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19014414 - 10/22/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool Stuff bro! But 24 ounces?? Those are some big cakes.
You aughta make up some small ones too. I've never had
much luck with anything over 12. Plus the larger the cake,
the longer the colonization time.
I would add an extra inoculation hole dead center of the tubs. (If it were "I")
Reason being because I've had larger ones to appear finished, even after 1-2 week
consolidation. For the middle to be un-colonized fully.

I've used some that are those size, but instead I spawned
four ounce cakes (1/4th pints) to bulk and made little bulk
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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #19017049 - 10/22/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i dont wanna add anymore inoculation holes. that will leave more room for contams. i think il be fine but advice is advice and il take yours lol. i put 4 inoculation points in two of them.

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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19017165 - 10/23/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'll be waiting! Did you add the Vermiculite barrier?
I know even though born aren't needed, I use the
Vermiculite barrier and micro pore tape before sterilizing.

I simply inoculate through the tape, still gets plenty of
gas exchange. You could use the needle to make the fifth
hole. Carefully of course, Then apply a piece of Micro pore tape.

Either way by using such large tubs you increase the chance
for contaminates. It's not a sure failure though. Sometimes
the substrate settles so much I the bottom that the mycelium
had trouble colonizing.

Either way bro, it's your grow. Hope I'm helpful.
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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #19017276 - 10/23/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea i have a dry verm layer. u put ur tape on before sterilizing ? i do it after inoculation. i feel good about this grow those containers are a little bigger then the jars but because of its shape it has alot more dryverm layer on it. so because of its top surface layer i added a full cup of dry verm on top instead of the 1/2 cup i would add in a jar making the cakes volume less then a quart jars. and weve all seen quart jars colonize.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19017306 - 10/23/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah before inoculation, helps keep the moisture out a little
I think. Just one of those effortless steps that not necessarily
needed but doesn't hurt me any to take.
Your method is fine though, after doing this hobby for a few
years you kinda get set in your own ways. Because after all
you know what works Best for you right?
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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19017346 - 10/23/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lol they are still steam sterilizing. still got another hour to go.





lol, wow. i really jumped the gun on that one.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19017347 - 10/23/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea just inoculated like 20 min ago.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19034872 - 10/26/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

okay so i used a diluted mixture from one syringe into 3 and i see life.

all 5 containers have healthy myc.




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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19035307 - 10/26/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:congrats:

You're doin work, sorry if I missed it
how long since inoculation and visible growth?

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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #19035424 - 10/26/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

4 days. and all have growth from ms.. its myc too no contams yet in any of my grows.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19042266 - 10/27/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and the wait begins :bigjoint:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19048828 - 10/28/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

UPDATE:

Lots of growth.


and thats 6 days from inoculation from ms.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19048884 - 10/28/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You appear to have a large shrub growing from your forearm lol

I'm curious to see how these turn out. Is your plan to just take the lid off, dump or hydrate the dry verm, then set them into a FC?


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: root9]
    #19048974 - 10/28/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol no. spawning to coir in a monotub im not wasting time with a fc. straight to bulk growing. ive done my research.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19054097 - 10/29/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

can i request a picture from the top of the tupperware? i want to see where the holes are at. excuse me for being a noob and needing seemingly boon details.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19067320 - 11/01/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

another pic...


bottom 2 had 4 inoculation points
top 3 had 2 each


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19085600 - 11/04/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

continued growth is looking good. a bit slow but what evs.

did you pressure cook the tuperware? i forgot at this point.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19090296 - 11/05/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

update: Tupperware is about 60% - 90% colonized.. the 2 that were inoculated using 4 inoculation points are almost done.. shouldve done it to all of them.. o well 2 late now.



no i did not pressure cook these... i steam sterilized for 2 hours. i did not get any contamination yet with any of my grows.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19091308 - 11/05/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool.

I once used some HDPE tupperware containers. 4L containers with a good thickness. PC'd at 5psi for 2 hours, and had great success using popcorn.

Awesome on the brf tupperware.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Kagenical]
    #19097560 - 11/06/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:amusedapplause:  :kaneclap:  :justastonishing:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19127067 - 11/12/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice almost colonized completely looks like. In your first post you talked about picking an isolate am i high or are you meaning spore printing the best looking specimen?


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Notfromarkansas]
    #19127171 - 11/12/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:highfive: Op . Nice work !

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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Notfromarkansas]
    #19129653 - 11/13/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nice almost colonized completely looks like. In your first post you talked about picking an isolate am i high or are you meaning spore printing the best looking specimen?



i meant cloneing to agar.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19173152 - 11/21/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Ultron]
    #19173186 - 11/22/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am interested to see the results :popcorn::mushroomgrow:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #19173207 - 11/22/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

those 5 all fully colonized no contams.. i already spawned them will get some pics up soon.. ive been neglecting this post lol.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19176761 - 11/22/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i hear ya bud, lol. i just came back to check and see if you were doing just that!

turns out, you are. :grin:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19176784 - 11/22/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Alright :thumbup:
Sounds like things are progressing nicely for you silverstem. That's awesome


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Stromrider]
    #19176978 - 11/22/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19176984 - 11/22/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright :thumbup:
Sounds like things are progressing nicely for you silverstem. That's awesome



Keyword SOUNDS! Where's the f#&king pic! Sorry I'm only patient on my own grows


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: cronicr]
    #19177257 - 11/23/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

UPDATE: i tried something new... Monoboxs.. spawned the 5 Tupperware containers to 4 monoboxes at a 1:3 ratio for all of them..

One is pinning the rest are fruiting.

The green polyfill in this one was actually Halloween decorations that were left over.. turns out it was made out of polyfill... died.





a little fuzzy put pins..


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19177297 - 11/23/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup::mushroomgrow:
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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19177300 - 11/23/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh man, did you really spawn those to cardboard boxes? 

Contam just waiting to happen...


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19177337 - 11/23/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all cardboard near polyfill holes is covered by tape. the trash liner blocks all cardboard. no chance of any cardboard getting wet. plus colonized sub is contam resistant. the boxes are easier to dispose of then tubs. also they are cheaper..


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19177365 - 11/23/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why dispose of a plastic tub at all?

You're already using a liner so you can just lift the substrate out and discard it :shrug:

Good luck with the cardboard.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19177384 - 11/23/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why dispose of a plastic tub at all?



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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19177397 - 11/23/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well i mean my girls giving birth in 6 months.. if i was planning on doing this a while i would go invest in more tubs but whats the point when im just gonna end up tossing them... i understand you don't like monoboxs thats all good they arnt meant for everyone. but i truly believe that no contams will start growing because of the tape job done on em. i know your word is gold like RRs but i will continue on the path im on until i can view for myself that things are going wrong. no disrespect to you. also thanks for the goodluck :wink:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19179251 - 11/23/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

watching the tread.  I have a mono of PR's now, and its taking off FAST!  suspiciously fast...
whenever I look up PR's here, theres talk of trouble with pinning which I hope I don't have, or you.


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    #19179360 - 11/23/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

we should be fine... i have 10 pins in one monobox. They grow up so fast :goodburger: ... plus PR is only a substrain were working from ms genetics. we wont have pin problems unless there are problems with the terrarium/monos.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19179414 - 11/23/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

have you grown PR before and have anything good or bad to say about it?  just curious.  I know "a cube is a cube" thing, but just casual observations u may have had, if any.

also, do u let ur mono consolidate? did u wait for knots to introduce to FC?


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19179808 - 11/23/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Post pin porn!

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    #19179831 - 11/23/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: Ultron]
    #19179942 - 11/23/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Update: 18 hour old pin porn...




there's like 10 pins in one monobox and 3 in the other... good results for only 4 days of fruiting... i am misting.. these monoboxes are kind of a bitch to dial in.. still trying to figure out if the FAE im introduceing is enough. i think it may be too much because my sub is drying out fast. so i tighten the holes up with polyfill.. ONLY TIME WILL TELL!!!! working on my grain prep right now.. just made my last 6 jars of BRF.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19180022 - 11/23/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So it's been 18 hours since it began pinning?


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #19180040 - 11/23/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

18 hours since i found out it was pinning..


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19189267 - 11/25/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can dig the cardboard boxes. I like how grow logs can contain experiments. Owning plastic tubs with holes can be suspicious.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19189301 - 11/25/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wouldn't the cardboard just help to dry out your sub?
I can see the box becoming "soggy".
If it works..., kewl.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19189464 - 11/25/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its already working lol... pins about an inch tall so far.. pics soon.. and the tape job i did with the box keeps the carboard from getting saturated.


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19195543 - 11/27/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

THEY LAUGHED AT MY MONOBOX!!!!!

whatever its fruiting hahaha... so far so good. lets see how many flushes i could get out of this baby....




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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19195741 - 11/27/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:bashful:


Very nice! Hopefully soon I'll join you in the winners circle.


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    #19196074 - 11/27/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No one said it couldn't be done, it's just that in grand scheme of containers for mushroom growing, cardboard is about the worst I can think of.

Nice pins, but sparse. Now dial those tubs in properly so they can show you what they got.


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    #19196085 - 11/27/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yea i just dialed it in this morning... i saw the fuzzy feet.


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    #19196316 - 11/27/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:goodluck:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19196584 - 11/27/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:yay:


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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: silverstem]
    #19202387 - 11/28/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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THEY LAUGHED AT MY MONOBOX!!!!!

whatever its fruiting hahaha... so far so good. lets see how many flushes i could get out of this baby....








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Re: 2nd gow...log [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19202847 - 11/28/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Actually the legitimate issue with cardboard boxes is that cardboard will readily grow mold when moist.


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    #19203257 - 11/29/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Very nice!  :dancer:


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