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dodeski
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A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley.
#19011299 - 10/21/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I need to find a cheap DSLR one of these days. These are all from todays hunt. I did not collect any specimen just pictures.




-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19011438 - 10/21/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love those Stropharia!
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dodeski
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Lhun]
#19011507 - 10/21/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking they where Stropharia ambigua. I have never eaten them. Have you tried them?
I was in a hurry hiking with friends, I didn't get a chance to stay around and adjust for lighting. I am stuck just using an Iphone4 for pics at the moment. It tends to overexpose.
-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19011534 - 10/22/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: I was thinking they where Stropharia ambigua.
That would be my guess as well.
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dodeski said: I have never eaten them. Have you tried them?
I have not. Perhaps someone else has more information there. Most guides list it as inedible. But there are some internet reports that it is of good edibility.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Lhun]
#19011543 - 10/22/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet cactu would know.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Lhun]
#19011557 - 10/22/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just wondering Mushrooms Demystified says "Edible? according to one authority it tastes " like dead leaves"...
I may try and bring home a specimen of the Macrolepiota next time I see it. I think those are Macrolepiota procera, not %100.
-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
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Lhun
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19011584 - 10/22/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: I think those are Macrolepiota procera, not %100.
Macrolepiota species of some sort for sure. Consider Macrolepiota rachodes too when you bring one home for ID. A good look at the stipe should narrow it down pretty quick.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Lhun]
#19011629 - 10/22/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chlorophyllum rhacodes 100% based on the habitat, and the stipe looks smooth.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Tangich]
#19011679 - 10/22/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Chlorophyllum rhacodes 100% based on the habitat, and the stipe looks smooth.
The stipe is definitely smooth. I will keep that observation in my field notes.
I had another pick of it from the underside, but I ran out of upload space for now.
-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19011739 - 10/22/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those look like C. oliverii to me.
C. rachodes have more of a broken outer sack that makes up the dark concentric patters on the cap.
C. oliverii has this furry appearance you see here.
Like this

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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Ganzig]
#19011795 - 10/22/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is very confusing. Our European Chlorophyllum rhacodes look exactly like the ones in the OP, in all the field guides, and are always described as very shaggy. You could very well be right, those you posted could be the real C. rhacodes. They shouldn't have the same name tough, they are very different, and it can be quite confusing.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Tangich]
#19011837 - 10/22/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lhun
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Tangich]
#19012618 - 10/22/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The rhacodes I find down here also often look very much like the ones pictured.
Shag city baby.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Tangich]
#19012639 - 10/22/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Chlorophyllum rhacodes 100% based on the habitat, and the stipe looks smooth.
I would have called it Chlorophyllum olivieri based on the overall grey coloring, even behind the scales.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: RiverDweller1]
#19012860 - 10/22/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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First pic is likely a Armillaria species,A.mellea or A.solidipes.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19012910 - 10/22/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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canid said: I bet cactu would know.
I don't think so, I have never observed Stropharia ambigua in Mexico.
Curecat fried some up in butter until they were golden brown and fed me some. They looked delicious and tasted like dirt, worst flavor of any mushroom I have ever tried. Someone on facebook posted yesterday that he loves eating them and they have a great earthy flavor. I will try to keep a more open mind next time I try them.
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dodeski said: according to one authority it tastes " like dead leaves"...
I may try and bring home a specimen of the Macrolepiota next time I see it. I think those are Macrolepiota procera, not %100.
Chanterelles taste like dead leaves to me but I still like them.
Macrolepiota procera is only in Europe, there are several delicious undescribed species in North America.
The last pic might be Cyptotrama.
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dodeski
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#19013072 - 10/22/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pic one I was leaning towards Inocybe species. At first glance the last pic looked like Mycena oregonense, but that was just a glance over. I will read over Cyptotrama and compare.
I've always thought chanterelles tasted similar Top Ramen Noodles. Or is it ramen tastes like chants?
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19013092 - 10/22/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pic 1 is an Armillaria. It is pic 5 that might be Cyptotrama.
It looks like it is finely hairy/scaly, which is why I did not try to call it Chryomphalina.
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: dodeski]
#19013101 - 10/22/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: Pic one I was leaning towards Inocybe species.
You are leaning the wrong way,they are Armillaria.
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dodeski
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Re: A walk in the valley. PNW Willamette valley. [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19013212 - 10/22/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blue-FunGuy said:
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dodeski said: Pic one I was leaning towards Inocybe species.
You are leaning the wrong way,they are Armillaria.
Shoulda' had a V8, damn.
I am always hesitant on Armillaria. I have not sat down to get to know it well enough. It's yet another fungus I have not tried to eat.
To tell you the truth, I hate the taste and texture of most mushrooms. Just finding out their taxa is more fulfilling to me.
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