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OfflineDeviate
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The Eastern Orthodox faith
    #19007535 - 10/21/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have been studying the Orthodox faith again and recently read some papers written by orthodox priests and scholars comparing orthodoxy with Roman Catholicism and protestantism.

Now, protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy which has never made sense to me, but it was their criticisms of the Roman Catholic church (which I belong to) and Roman Catholic spirituality that really struck a chord with me.

From the Orthodox perspective, unlike protestantism, the teachings of the Roman Catholic church aren't incorrect per se, but the emphases is on the wrong things. One of the criticisms they made which really hit home for me, was what they had to say about Roman Catholic saints. The basically made St Frances of Assisi look like a fool or little child in terms of spiritual maturity. They set out to demonstrate that the spirituality of the desert fathers of the orthodox church was superior to roman catholic spirituality, and I must say, it was pretty convincing.


Anyone who wants to know about real Christianity, I recommend they study the teachings of the desert fathers of the Orthodox faith. This is the purest form of Christianity still existing in mainstream churches.

If you are interested, this is the site which Ive been browsing: http://orthodoxinfo.com/ if you go under the western christianity tab, that is where they have mnost of the articles explaining why orthodoxy is the true faith and how other forms of Christianity have erred.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Deviate]
    #19008060 - 10/21/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now, protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy

This sounds just like Fivepointer. :curbyourenthusiasm:

You guys crack me up.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Deviate]
    #19008248 - 10/21/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it does have some good points in comparison to the Catholic church, such as the Popes being permitted to have their own family and practice of sex which we know turns out badly when repressed. I.e Catholic priests Molesting children.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Icelander]
    #19009309 - 10/21/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Now, protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy

This sounds just like Fivepointer. :curbyourenthusiasm:

You guys crack me up.




How does my distaste for protestantism sound anything like fivepointer, a raging protestant?

If you're going to say that anyone who thinks one religion is more true than another is just like fivepointer, then you might as well argue that believing in the tooth fairy is just as legitimate as believing in evolution.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Deviate]
    #19009356 - 10/21/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I learned to bridge obsessive-compulsive Indian spirituality to obsessive-compulsive Greek spirituality through Eastern Orthodox Christianity (Hesychasm). Fortunately, my OCD spirituality is in remission, and I can now live a normal life. :lol: Here is a link to the Stylites, just in case you have missed THIS particular Eastern Orthodox Christian freak show.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylites ; Too many pathological people have been called saints over the ages. Teresa of Avila wrote about her compulsion to put her lips to a nauseating gob of snot that someone hocked onto the ground! She was a masochist in a way that far far exceeds my former masochistic practice of wearing nut-sack cutting tight jeans! :puke: Masochism is behind self-mortification, medieval flagellation, hair shirts or spiked chains (cilice), etc. These practices do not equal spirituality, they equal pathology!

Anyone who mocks another faith's saints mocks ALL saints. But this truth is just like telling fuchtard adolescents that mocking another kid's mother is the same as mocking his own mother, and ALL mothers. This is just too abstract a thought for those who are little more than big, dumb egos and can't see anything from any perspective but their own. I'll take Franciscan spirituality over the Benedictine version, or the Dominicans which were the vanguard of  the 'Holy Inquisition,' pure sadism of the worst sort, not to mention the questionable 'spirituality' of the Stylites.  Francis apparently did tame a timber wolf, whose bones were discovered in a church, and to whom has been attributed the stigmata (which is not supernatural, and even wrongly placed on the palms instead of the wrists, but still indicates an intense unconscious), as well as levitation (probably a modern mythologization, which makes the accounts interesting historically). I recommend the film 'Brother Sun, Sister Moon.' http://www.amazon.com/Brother-Sun-Sister-Moon/dp/B00DJYKGVW/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1382394202&sr=1-2&keywords=brother+sun+sister+moon I almost applied to be a Capuchin Reformed Franciscan - they get to keep their hair and don't get one of those Brother Juniper tonsures.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Deviate] * 1
    #19010609 - 10/21/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Deviate said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Now, protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy

This sounds just like Fivepointer. :curbyourenthusiasm:

You guys crack me up.




How does my distaste for protestantism sound anything like fivepointer, a raging protestant?

If you're going to say that anyone who thinks one religion is more true than another is just like fivepointer, then you might as well argue that believing in the tooth fairy is just as legitimate as believing in evolution.




He says the same thing about the catholic religion as you say about Protestant.  What if I was to tell you you're both right. :wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Deviate]
    #19011360 - 10/21/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Deviate said:
protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy

Anyone who wants to know about real Christianity...




No offense, but when you deem others' denominations/practices as "a ridiculous heresy", you lose all credibility, especially as a Christian, since not judging others is a core principle of Christ's teachings.


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: LifeBoy]
    #19011649 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:haha:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: LifeBoy]
    #19011730 - 10/22/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LifeBoy said:
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Deviate said:
protestantism is of course, a ridiculous heresy

Anyone who wants to know about real Christianity...




No offense, but when you deem others' denominations/practices as "a ridiculous heresy", you lose all credibility, especially as a Christian, since not judging others is a core principle of Christ's teachings.




:lol::thumbup:


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: cez]
    #19012130 - 10/22/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Having grown up in a family of Orthodox people, in a country that's pretty much made up of Orthodox Christians, having attended the unimaginingly boring Orthodox church and witnessing what to me seemed like endless mass and rituals, I can honestly say I've had it with that stuff for at least 6-7 lifetimes, if not more :lol:

I'm sure it must sound good in theory, on paper, if you're the reading kind or the monastic kind. If your idea of good awesome fun is to chill out with fellow bearded monks dressed in black, these things must rule. Same if you fancy straight up, no nonsense get married have kids and have good clean intercourse with the wife, missionary position as God surely intended. Pork on Christmas, lamb and eggs in a basket on Easter.

For me, the only thing Orthodox Christianity was good for, was boring me so much, so completely and utterly, that it pushed me to seek out psychedelics. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have put in the time and effort to experiment, seek out dealers, grow anything or travel to get any Ayahuasca, had I not been previously bored out of my skull in Orthodox church for years and years.

Personal subjective experience of course, I'm sure if you grow up in some other faith and find Orthodoxy as an adult, it might work much better. If it has, then enjoy :hatsoff:


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Spacerific]
    #19012276 - 10/22/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only way to save the little green alien men is to let the know Jesus died for their sins and have them repent!!

:tard:


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Re: The Eastern Orthodox faith [Re: Yogi1]
    #19012292 - 10/22/13 06:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:


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