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Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics)
    #19009742 - 10/21/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys,

I've been reading up on shrooms for about a month now and my first grow is going well. Big shout out to the Shroomery and all its members for helping me get this far....you've inoculated my brain with this new hobby and the its taking over fast!

Anyhow, my cats got 5 quart size B+ BRF cakes that will be ready to fruit in about a day or so.



hes constructed my fruiting chamber and  plans on doing a 12/12 cycle under a large CFL grow light. My question is: should he construct a window in the top of the lid? Or will the light that gets through the sides and the 1/4' holes in the lid be sufficient?





If a window is necessary how big should it be? and will simple sran wrap do the trick?

Thanks,
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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #19009768 - 10/21/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Never send a cat to do what people can do better. Those are the wrong jars and you will not be able to fruit those as cakes.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19009809 - 10/21/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Never send a cat to do what people can do better. Those are the wrong jars and you will not be able to fruit those as cakes.


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Ouch man, Bigger is not better with PF tek/BRF jars. You're never going to get the cakes out of those jars in one piece.

It is astonishing how well they colonized though. People always rip on the tall half pint jars but I think they just pack their substrate to hard.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19009818 - 10/21/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its hard to tell but it looks like you have too many holes drilled? They look pretty close together?


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19009903 - 10/21/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You would want the holes in the corners to, i dont see any tho that could just be the pic. You want a clear lid, just try and find one, its easier then crafting one.. i agree that those are the wrong jars and fruiting them is gonna be a bitch. Might be best to use them as spawn. Idk.

No offense meant to the OP, but where do newbie find all this bad outdated info? I  did some stupid shit when i started, but thats was long before i found the shroomery. I just dont get it.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19009955 - 10/21/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Since you wont be able to birth those cakes you'll want to use them ASAP if you're going to spawn them to bulk. If you do spawn to bulk I would do coir+verm and properly pasteurize it. When spawning to bulk you don't want to let your PF cakes consolidate You want to try to catch the mycellium at it's most active growth phase not while it's digesting the food it's colonized. If you need help looking up how to do any of the following try using the advanced search engine typing the keyword and click the trusted cultivator box. If you have troubles still post here or PM me.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #19009960 - 10/21/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PsilocyBen17 said:
Hey guys,

I've been reading up on shrooms for about a month now and my first grow is going well. Big shout out to the Shroomery and all its members for helping me get this far....you've inoculated my brain with this new hobby and the its taking over fast!

Anyhow, my cats got 5 quart size B+ BRF cakes that will be ready to fruit in about a day or so.



hes constructed my fruiting chamber and  plans on doing a 12/12 cycle under a large CFL grow light. My question is: should he construct a window in the top of the lid? Or will the light that gets through the sides and the 1/4' holes in the lid be sufficient?





If a window is necessary how big should it be? and will simple sran wrap do the trick?

Thanks,
PsilocyBen



Carefully break those jars and take your time while doing it.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Enigma1]
    #19010216 - 10/21/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry for the typo guys. The jars aren't quart size...they are pint size. I'm Canadian so I get messed up with the conversions sometimes eh? I think they will fruit fine, although the jars are not wide mouth. None were to be found so I plan on carefully breaking the jars before putting them in the fruiting chamber.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #19010771 - 10/21/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't break the jars....smh. just reach a spoon in, spoon out the cake and spawn it to a bit of coir. Or crumble it up and case, FYI didn't care to reread to see if it was BRF or grain. Either way don't break the jars

Mason jars are thick and even with a ballping hammer its tough to safely break them without destroying the cake.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #19011378 - 10/21/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the quick responses guys. I'll let you know what I do, but my original question has never been answered. Should I cut a window in the top of my lid? Or will it be fine?


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #19011651 - 10/22/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Since your breaking the jars! I guess you will have cakes. I advise against this.
anyway. Yes you need light from the top, the heat and direction of light help with the function of a proper SgFC. Look into this established tek if you want optimal resjiults.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19011692 - 10/22/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the heat and direction of light help with the function of a proper SgFC.



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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PussyFart]
    #19011756 - 10/22/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
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Giggle_Grower said:
the heat and direction of light help with the function of a proper SgFC.



Please explain.



IIRC the heat from the light(suspended above, yet near the top of a SGFC) helps with the lifting of humid air and the introduction of fresh air.  Something to do do with heat rising while heavy air sinks. Mushie will grow toward fresh air and light. I know this to be true as when I had my light to the side of the chamber, they grew in That direction. If you or the OP would like links, Im sure i could find
I dont doubt your knowledge Notahacker420, Ive seen you give many advisable info to  new members. You do great things for the community. I'm  just stating my knowledge as I know it. Im not after a arguement. Constructive debate is welcome however, as thats what life is about.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19011773 - 10/22/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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IIRC the heat from the light(suspended above, yet near the top of a SGFC) helps.with the lifting of humid air and the introduction of fresh air.  Something to do do with heat rising while.heavy air sinks.



No, not at all.

The heat from the cakes will help with this, as well as the humidity while it rises naturally, but the heat from the light source is not going to do much but heat up the chamber if it's close enough.

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I know this to be true as when I had my light to the side of the chamber, they grew in That direction.



How does the mushrooms direction of growth have to do with the lifting of humid air?

They grew towards the light because they were deriving energy from it.

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If you or the OP would like links, Im sure i could find
I dont doubt your knowledge Notahacker420, Ive seen you give many advisable info to  new members. You do great things for the community. I'm  just stating my knowledge as I know it. Im not after a arguement.



There is no argument...you are wrong....but you still need to find me these links.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PussyFart]
    #19011893 - 10/22/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Notahacker420 said:
Quote:

Giggle_Grower said:
IIRC the heat from the light(suspended above, yet near the top of a SGFC) helps.with the lifting of humid air and the introduction of fresh air.  Something to do do with heat rising while.heavy air sinks.



No, not at all.

The heat from the cakes will help with this, as well as the humidity while it rises naturally, but the heat from the light source is not going to do much but heat up the chamber if it's close enough.

Quote:

Giggle_Grower said:
I know this to be true as when I had my light to the side of the chamber, they grew in That direction.



How does the mushrooms direction of growth have to do with the lifting of humid air?

They grew towards the light because they were deriving energy from it.

Quote:

Giggle_Grower said:
If you or the OP would like links, Im sure i could find
I dont doubt your knowledge Notahacker420, Ive seen you give many advisable info to  new members. You do great things for the community. I'm  just stating my knowledge as I know it. Im not after a arguement.



There is no argument...you are wrong....but you still need to find me these links.




Yes,  :notards: ,
Find those links so we can snuff out the bad information before it becomes an epidemic. Huah. Slightly trolling, slightly serious.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: PussyFart]
    #19011939 - 10/22/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok.well im not trolling and.not out to spread misinformation. I really take offense to the trolling comment. When i get up in the morning and have a fresh mind, ill share the links and constructivly debate these statements. AND if I'm  wrong, I'm  wrong.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19011946 - 10/22/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^ Does this indicate you're speechless?


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19011965 - 10/22/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No this means i know when to face opponents and when not too.
For real, damn tho. I never thought id be accused of trolling. Wowzer.

Yes an edited post.  I started a constructive post but cant finish it at this current time. So sue me. Im just trying to help, as many tried to help me when I began.


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19011984 - 10/22/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Giggle_Grower said:
No this means i know when to face opponents and when not too.
For real, damn tho. I never thought id be accused of trolling. Wowzer.




Oh, Its just late and im having fun. I know whether or not the information in question should or shouldent be redacted. Sometimes people experience different results with different teks.

I do thank you for your time and its nice that you're going out of your way to help someone with your information, whether or not it is being questioned.

Cheers


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Re: Does my fruiting chamber need a window? (with pics) [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19011989 - 10/22/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Drama!


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