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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19006414 - 10/20/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://pcp.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/5/766.full
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small RNAs are involved in the induction of DNA methylation
If there is a set of highly conserved housekeeping genes in plants and animals and plant microRNAs can get into our bloodstream what is potentially stopping those small RNAs from changing our highly conserved housekeeping machinery (since small RNAs operate in a sequence-dependent manner).
You don't think there is a chance some greedy corporation would use RNAi in plants to kill insect pests and inadvertently mess with the consumers gene status.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty]
#19008433 - 10/21/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i kill my own own lunch on tha daily
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: morrowasted]
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: HeroMike]
#19011387 - 10/21/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm a vegetarian and I don't really care about organic. Whatever's cheaper is what I get.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: kneesocks]
#19011394 - 10/21/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They just dont taste the same as good ole, organic edible awesomeness.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: HeroMike]
#19012324 - 10/22/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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HeroMike said: So this is all bs ?
http://naturalsociety.com/gm-wheat-permanently-alter-human-genome/
that's a naturalist nutter site
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
#19012327 - 10/22/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Demonic_Chronic said: They just dont taste the same as good ole, organic edible awesomeness.
DC
because in most cases the produce is picked early so it can survive shipping across the country but then it's exposed to ethylene gas to speed ripening
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19012351 - 10/22/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inorganic fruits
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#19012688 - 10/22/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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HeroMike said: So this is all bs ?
http://naturalsociety.com/gm-wheat-permanently-alter-human-genome/
that's a naturalist nutter site
So knowing you pris , I assume its an overly liberal site ? Using fear tactics and no factual evidence?
Honestly This thread has been a lot of back and forth with little factual evidence toward either side .
I buy all my food from a local farmers market , I do that because I cannot grow everything I want to eat all year(yet).
I think that growing your own food is the only way to be safe either way .
But I guess what I'd like to see , is a non complicated answer to a complicated question. I guess that is what we all want .
My opinion GMO's are untested and rejected out right in Europe without proper labeling (in some cases all together) , for a reason .
Cancer seems to be just part of the pilgrimage of the poor these days . If the goal of this thread is to argue then whats the point ?
I understand its heated and heavily emotional debate . But if this thread is to have a constructive purpose I encourage everyone to weigh both sides .
Personally I will grow/know where my food comes from . I know thats not possible for everyone (or necessary) but I feel like at least I've made an attempt .
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: HeroMike]
#19014232 - 10/22/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly This thread has been a lot of back and forth with little factual evidence toward either side . . .I understand its heated and heavily emotional debate . But if this thread is to have a constructive purpose I encourage everyone to weigh both sides .
Welcome to the debate of GMO and not just on this site, but if you follow it at all elswhere it is pretty much the same.
I myself am on the fence. I probably will stay that way. I eat a lot of organic stuff, but I eat some GMO as well. What I do not eat is processed foods that have ingredients I cannot identify, and I stopped eating all wheat recently
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass] 1
#19014634 - 10/22/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see much evidence that GM products are harmful to people. There is a lot of evidence that the modified genes are showing up in otherwise unmodified organisms. There may come a time when the entire genome of entire species (and closely related species) will have these sequences in them. This bothers me. There is just no way to control cross pollination of a non GM crop with a neighbor's GM brand crop.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19014744 - 10/22/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said:
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Honestly This thread has been a lot of back and forth with little factual evidence toward either side . . .I understand its heated and heavily emotional debate . But if this thread is to have a constructive purpose I encourage everyone to weigh both sides .
Welcome to the debate of GMO and not just on this site, but if you follow it at all elswhere it is pretty much the same.
I myself am on the fence. I probably will stay that way. I eat a lot of organic stuff, but I eat some GMO as well. What I do not eat is processed foods that have ingredients I cannot identify, and I stopped eating all wheat recently
Curious , did you quit eating wheat because of the gmo cross pollination ?
I've been eating Durum Wheat pasta and after a little googling didn't see much of any research stating it to be cross contaminated with GMO's . If I'm wrong about this particular wheat I'd sure like to know because this stuff is cheap and tasty . http://www.barillagroup.com/corporate/en/home/media/posizioni-aziendali/grano-duro-barilla.html
3 bucks for 3 boxes of non gmo pasta thank you Jesus !
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: HeroMike]
#19015124 - 10/22/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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HeroMike said:
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LiquidGlass said:
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Honestly This thread has been a lot of back and forth with little factual evidence toward either side . . .I understand its heated and heavily emotional debate . But if this thread is to have a constructive purpose I encourage everyone to weigh both sides .
Welcome to the debate of GMO and not just on this site, but if you follow it at all elswhere it is pretty much the same.
I myself am on the fence. I probably will stay that way. I eat a lot of organic stuff, but I eat some GMO as well. What I do not eat is processed foods that have ingredients I cannot identify, and I stopped eating all wheat recently
Curious , did you quit eating wheat because of the gmo cross pollination ?
I've been eating Durum Wheat pasta and after a little googling didn't see much of any research stating it to be cross contaminated with GMO's . If I'm wrong about this particular wheat I'd sure like to know because this stuff is cheap and tasty . http://www.barillagroup.com/corporate/en/home/media/posizioni-aziendali/grano-duro-barilla.html
3 bucks for 3 boxes of non gmo pasta thank you Jesus !
No it was mainly due to the fact that I keep hearing or reading about how wheat is bad for you, supposedly it is not even close to same as it was a while back. Been hearing people say how much better they feel after cutting wheat out of their diet. I have not researched it for myself, but one benefit is(including that i dont eat any processed sugar) is that it keeps me from eating a lot of junk food.
I have always leaned towards the natural, minimally processed idea of eating, but only within the past month have i ben really strict, and decided not to eat any wheat, gluten, sugar, or anything else with ingredients I cannot easily identify
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: cez]
#19016503 - 10/22/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first 37 pages of the book Grub: ideas for an urban organic kitchen by Anna Lappé and Bryant Terry serves as a great introduction for what organic food is. This selection from the book can be accessed via the following link and no download is required, but you may download it if you want: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3BBccfPNsX8OV84UzR6NG80Nms/edit?usp=sharing
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I neglected to include the last few pages of references. I'll add them later.
Edited by s240779 (10/22/13 09:55 PM)
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