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I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it.
    #19011281 - 10/21/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Location: Pacific Northwest, in the woods.
Cap: Red. Yellow warts.
Stem: Bulbous.
Gills: White, with some partial veils.



Can I still eat the one's that have been sitting out and turning brown? Why are all of the warts on the cap yellow and not white? Is there a viable market out there for such things?

I plan on drying them in the oven on a low setting. Does this work?

Thankyou :smile:


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011566 - 10/22/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19011616 - 10/22/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not an expert but those definitely don't look like amanitas


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Hierophant]
    #19011625 - 10/22/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cut them up to dry them out faster. I don't know if the oven idea is
good or bad.

But definitely cut them up.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Hierophant]
    #19011628 - 10/22/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Hierophant said:
Not an expert but those definitely don't look like amanitas




How so? It's red looks like an egg at small size, covered completely by a warty veil, and when larger it has pieces of the veil covering it. White gills, white stem, etc.

I can't think of anything else they'd be.

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Ganzig said:
Cut them up to dry them out faster. I don't know if the oven idea is
good or bad.

But definitely cut them up.




Can these be marketable if they're cut into pieces, though?


Edited by DarkMadrigal (10/22/13 12:30 AM)


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Hierophant]
    #19011636 - 10/22/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look like dirty Amanita muscaria var flavivolvata with the warts washed or wiped off and the basal bulbs worn nearly smooth.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011638 - 10/22/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Those things look nasty, and don't look like any muscaria I have seen. Maybe Amanita, but I'd wait 4 a TI.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011643 - 10/22/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DarkMadrigal said:
Can these be marketable if they're cut into pieces, though?





In so far as they're marketable at all. It's certainly a smallish niche market.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: canid]
    #19011644 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They look like dirty Amanita muscaria var flavivolvata with the warts washed or wiped off and the basal bulbs worn nearly smooth.



Yep. They were traveling in a bag for a day while hiking. Attempted to wash the enormous amount of dirt off without removing the aesthetic, which was nearly impossible.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011645 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Is there a viable market out there for such things?





There is a small market I guess on the internet.  But they go real cheap, $20 an ounce dried.  Most people don't like them.  They made me want to puke and pass out the one time I tried them.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Hierophant]
    #19011647 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you might consider going to the top of the page right under the Shroomery banner, select Mushroom info > Hunting Mushrooms > Amanita Species, and read up, and then read the sticky about posting ID requests and read a few... the more info, the better.

edit: next time please provide multiple shot of mature specimens including the base of the stipe for Amanita ID's, and please don't wash them ahead of taking pics.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19011655 - 10/22/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Those things look nasty, and don't look like any muscaria I have seen. Maybe Amanita, but I'd wait 4 a TI.



First you post an asinine picture, and then tell me they're 'ugly' based on a subjective criteria (not to mention, it doesn't matter if they're ugly, it matters if they contain muscimol or ibotenic acid...) Any better way to spend your time?


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011665 - 10/22/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DarkMadrigal said:
Is there a viable market out there for such things?





There is a small market I guess on the internet.  But they go real cheap, $20 an ounce dried.  Most people don't like them.  They made me want to puke and pass out the one time I tried them.



Might as well make a few hundred dollars, then.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011672 - 10/22/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Might as well make a few hundred dollars, then.




Nothing better than finding money lying on the ground (or growing from it in this case).  Good luck to you.  :cool:


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19011683 - 10/22/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DarkMadrigal said:
First you post an asinine picture, and then tell me they're 'ugly' based on a subjective criteria (not to mention, it doesn't matter if they're ugly, it matters if they contain muscimol or ibotenic acid...) Any better way to spend your time?




1st -I said they look nasty, not ugly...
2nd -Your picture looks WAY worse than mine (at least mines in focus).
3rd -All I really wanted was for you to make sure that a TI gave it a look before you ate something you shouldn't...
4th -Yeah, I do have better ways of spending my time. But I find posting on your thread to be much more engaging and interesting.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19011941 - 10/22/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

For its psychoactive properties, I sauté less than I would for most mushrooms in unfiltered olive oil and minced shallots and try to bring their temp to 160-180 F.. Then I freeze in foil and take smaller doses (up to 2 tbsp at most up to twice a day usually mixed into eggs) on cold, dark, energy-less days. I never tried to market them...

Any excess I've been able to collect I find a recipe to contain their deliciousness in and cook the activity out of 'em.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19012280 - 10/22/13 06:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Those do not look like amanita muscaria.


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19012297 - 10/22/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DarkMadrigal said:
Location: Pacific Northwest, in the woods.
Cap: Red. Yellow warts.
Stem: Bulbous.
Gills: White, with some partial veils.



Can I still eat the one's that have been sitting out and turning brown? Why are all of the warts on the cap yellow and not white? Is there a viable market out there for such things?

I plan on drying them in the oven on a low setting. Does this work?

Thankyou :smile:




:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: DarkMadrigal]
    #19014219 - 10/22/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DarkMadrigal said:
Quote:

Hierophant said:
Not an expert but those definitely don't look like amanitas




How so? It's red looks like an egg at small size, covered completely by a warty veil, and when larger it has pieces of the veil covering it. White gills, white stem, etc.

I can't think of anything else they'd be.

Quote:

Ganzig said:
Cut them up to dry them out faster. I don't know if the oven idea is
good or bad.

But definitely cut them up.




Can these be marketable if they're cut into pieces, though?





I don't see any white warts on the caps in your photo and the caps appear more orange than red... again, I'm not an expert and dont know what they could be but those don't look like amanita muscaria IMO and I definitely wouldn't try marketing them if you can't get a positive id


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Re: I need to know if this is indeed amanita muscaria, and how to prepare it. [Re: Hierophant]
    #19014242 - 10/22/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Hierophant said:
Not an expert but those definitely don't look like amanitas





They are Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata.

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Those do not look like amanita muscaria.





Yes they do.

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I don't see any white warts on the caps in your photo and the caps appear more orange than red... again, I'm not an expert and dont know what they could be but those don't look like amanita muscaria IMO and I definitely wouldn't try marketing them if you can't get a positive id




There is only one red or orange capped Amanita on the west coast.


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