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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #19024713 - 10/24/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #19024719 - 10/24/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does it have that nice faint ammonia smell that only the best Mexican brick has? Gotta love those seeds and stuff too. Just adds to the potency.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19024734 - 10/24/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You know it. The more seed the better. Lots of tasty stems too.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #19024753 - 10/24/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #19024772 - 10/24/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You know it. The more seed the better. Lots of tasty stems too.





By far the strongest/best weed I have ever smoked in 20ish years (of smoking, I'm in my 30's) was full of seeds/stems. Jamaican cess, straight of the plane from a yardy associate. I was very dubious when I first tried it about 10 years ago, the guy who imports it was asking top dollar and there was no discount even buying pounds of the stuff.

It is the perfect example of the power of genetics and perfect growing conditions. It has the consistency of Indian charas pretty much, incredibly oily and a dark black colour. I was a very heavy smoker when I first tried it and a couple of what looked like very meager joints had me still feeling baked the next day after about 10 hours sleep.

I would put cess full of seeds and stems up against any hydro/medical stuff any day of the week.

Seeds, stems and a bush weed appearance can be exceedingly deceptive on rare occasions.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19024784 - 10/24/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You know it. The more seed the better. Lots of tasty stems too.





By far the strongest/best weed I have ever smoked in 20ish years (of smoking, I'm in my 30's) was full of seeds/stems. Jamaican cess, straight of the plane from a yardy associate. I was very dubious when I first tried it about 10 years ago, the guy who imports it was asking top dollar and there was no discount even buying pounds of the stuff.

It is the perfect example of the power of genetics and perfect growing conditions. It has the consistency of Indian charas pretty much, incredibly oily and a dark black colour. I was a very heavy smoker when I first tried it and a couple of what looked like very meager joints had me still feeling baked the next day after about 10 hours sleep.

I would put cess full of seeds and stems up against any hydro/medical stuff any day of the week.

Seeds, stems and a bush weed appearance can be exceedingly deceptive on rare occasions.


:bobmarley:



That doesn't make any sense. Indian Charas is a type of hashish basically. I don't understand how marijuana full of seeds and stems could bear any resemblance to hashish.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19024788 - 10/24/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've had some great Jamaican weed that looked like total crap.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19025261 - 10/24/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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CavemanJohnson said:
You know it. The more seed the better. Lots of tasty stems too.





By far the strongest/best weed I have ever smoked in 20ish years (of smoking, I'm in my 30's) was full of seeds/stems. Jamaican cess, straight of the plane from a yardy associate. I was very dubious when I first tried it about 10 years ago, the guy who imports it was asking top dollar and there was no discount even buying pounds of the stuff.

It is the perfect example of the power of genetics and perfect growing conditions. It has the consistency of Indian charas pretty much, incredibly oily and a dark black colour. I was a very heavy smoker when I first tried it and a couple of what looked like very meager joints had me still feeling baked the next day after about 10 hours sleep.

I would put cess full of seeds and stems up against any hydro/medical stuff any day of the week.

Seeds, stems and a bush weed appearance can be exceedingly deceptive on rare occasions.


:bobmarley:



That doesn't make any sense. Indian Charas is a type of hashish basically. I don't understand how marijuana full of seeds and stems could bear any resemblance to hashish.




Exactly, I didn't understand either. I obviously know what charas is.. It is made differently than most hashish (although hashish from different areas is made in many different ways.) Charas is rolled plant material and does contain pieces of fibrous plant matter, rather than crystals or pure oils, like pollen/pollum or ISO.

Cess is so oily that the pure plant is actually more likely making a joint with hash than weed, it crumbles in a very similar way to charas (which is actually very common in the UK). I imagine cess is what Bob Marley would have been smoking, the high is somewhere between hashish and bud, it is very clean and dreamlike, if you ever get a chance to smoke, pay whatever they are asking and see for yourself, you won't regret it.

It totally makes sense, it is just a one of a kind weed that really defies direct comparison with any other kind of pot I have encountered in the UK, Spain, Morocco, the US, Canada, Mexico or anywhere else I have been.

Anybody else ever come across cess? I'd love to hear what other people think of it.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025271 - 10/24/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How the hell can anyone think that seeds and stems are an indication of bad quality? They're just a natural part of the plant.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: s240779]
    #19025290 - 10/24/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have heard that THC is used to create the seeds, though I am not sure how much truth there is to that. I can imagine that a plant not producing oil and nutrient rich seeds would spend more energy producing THC/cannabinoids though that is pure speculation on my behalf.

Also going back to my previous post, I have found seeds in charas/temple ball before.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025292 - 10/24/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Strange. I would think that if the genetics were so good they would be being incorporated into today's modern marijuana hybridization. With people like the strain hunters scouring the globe to bring the world's best genetics into the fold, and jamaican marijuana being no big secret, I would think this would have been done decades ago.

I think sometimes people have a more profound experience from things like this based on set and setting. Sitting down and smoking some good weed in Jamaica would definitely be an enhancing experience.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19025315 - 10/24/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Growing is pretty hard, especially compared to mushrooms. I mean I guess the 'hardest' part is researching your head off. You're going to cram so much shit in to your brain and read so many debates about techniques it'll make your head spin. But it's all worth it and you feel pretty proud after your first successful go at it.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025335 - 10/24/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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CavemanJohnson said:
You know it. The more seed the better. Lots of tasty stems too.





By far the strongest/best weed I have ever smoked in 20ish years (of smoking, I'm in my 30's) was full of seeds/stems. Jamaican cess, straight of the plane from a yardy associate. I was very dubious when I first tried it about 10 years ago, the guy who imports it was asking top dollar and there was no discount even buying pounds of the stuff.

It is the perfect example of the power of genetics and perfect growing conditions. It has the consistency of Indian charas pretty much, incredibly oily and a dark black colour. I was a very heavy smoker when I first tried it and a couple of what looked like very meager joints had me still feeling baked the next day after about 10 hours sleep.

I would put cess full of seeds and stems up against any hydro/medical stuff any day of the week.

Seeds, stems and a bush weed appearance can be exceedingly deceptive on rare occasions.


:bobmarley:





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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19025336 - 10/24/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutely nothing to do with set or setting. I go to a lot of reggae sessions and know a lot of Jamaicans/West Indians. Trust me, when cess is about they don't smoke anything else. I know a guy who makes one or two trips a year to the islands and brings back a KG or two in his suitcase. The money he makes off that amount keeps him going all year, it is some of the most expensive weed around and exceptionally rare (outside of Kingston, mon).

I don't think it is a matter of the genetics not existing within the cultivation arena, it is the soil, the sunlight, the rain etc. It is a well established land race and basically is the perfect storm of pot. I don't think it could really be reproduced outside of Jamaica or similar islands with a very similar ecosytem/climate etc.

It is an anomaly and I will admit to being as skeptical as you before I tried it. Seriously though, nothing comes close. It is more oily than you can imagine. I am sure there are medical grade buds with a higher THC content, I can only assume it is the resin and other cannabinoids that make it what it is.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025347 - 10/24/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just did a google image search and it seems as though a lot of people spell it with an "s", so do an image search for "Jamaican sess" and take a peek, the stuff I've had was always the darker side of the colour spectrum, presumably dried and cured for a far longer period.

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This looks fairly close to what I get, doesn't look like much, does it?

(if the image isn't there in this post it's because I have had some weird problem uploading pics the last couple of weeks, they show up on my screen but no one else's for some reason..).


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025353 - 10/24/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From what my understanding of cess is/has always been since the 80s, is cess was just word people used for weed. Like calling it dank. And later, since it was a big word in the jamaican culture, cess was used to describe low grade jamaican bud. IME most jamaican bud is shwag compared to what the norm is on the west coast.


Idk what this cess is that you are talking about but I think you are using the wrong word if you are referring to dank weed.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025355 - 10/24/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dunno, I think today's modern marijuana grower has SO much control over soil, mineral content, lighting, nutrients etc, that I have a hard time buying what you are saying.

That said, if I ever have the opportunity to try said sess, I most certainly will, and I will think of you when I do.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19025361 - 10/24/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The Jamaican stuff I tried was really dark as well, I assume it's from the curing process. Around here some people say "sess" to refer to any outdoor weed.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: ganjfather]
    #19025365 - 10/24/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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IME most jamaican bud is shwag compared to what the norm is on the west coast.




I have a buddy who went to Jamacia recently and the bud he got wasn't that good, although this is a tall white dude in Jamacia obvious tourist no connections oncesoever. Should probably just be happy he didn't get scammed more than once :lol: Though I have a hard time believing generally that it could compete with west coast bud if you just took a general samples from both and compared qualities.


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Re: Is growing weed hard? [Re: ganjfather]
    #19025366 - 10/24/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I somehow doubt Jamaicans are using the wrong word.. If anything the translation or meaning in the US has become lost over time. I can assure that the 60 year old Jamaican DJs I know are not getting confused about what weed is called or if it is strong and the most expensive stuff available.


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