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elcooperino
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rye grain for pf tek style cakes ?
#19009923 - 10/21/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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after trying and failing to do bulk iv been left with 25kg of rye grain. i want to start doing cakes and was wondering if rye grain as it is without being ground to flour could be used inplace of BRF in the pf tek cake recipe ? anyone had any experience of this before?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: elcooperino]
#19009980 - 10/21/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do some searching. Click the trusted cultivator box in the advanced search engine.
Yes you can use rye flour.
Here's one trusted cultivators take
here's RR on the topic
and some more
Where did you go wrong with bulk?
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LiquidGlass
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: elcooperino]
#19009989 - 10/21/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well how did you mess up the bulk? You are likely to make the same mistake with cakes. Coming from someone who started out doing cakes and now bulk, bulk is just as easy to pull off as cakes. Try to pinpoint how you messed up and try to fix it
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19009997 - 10/21/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: Well how did you mess up the bulk? You are likely to make the same mistake with cakes. Coming from someone who started out doing cakes and now bulk, bulk is just as easy to pull off as cakes. Try to pinpoint how you messed up and try to fix it
Yup
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19010006 - 10/21/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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LiquidGlass said: Well how did you mess up the bulk? You are likely to make the same mistake with cakes. Coming from someone who started out doing cakes and now bulk, bulk is just as easy to pull off as cakes. Try to pinpoint how you messed up and try to fix it
Yup
Is that APE in your sig? Beautiful specimens!
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19010060 - 10/21/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope AA+, but thanks. I'll make some beautiful APE specimens if someone wants to send me a print/swab.
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LiquidGlass
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19010074 - 10/21/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never grown them, only have regular PE swabs . . .
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elcooperino
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19010089 - 10/21/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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they all mention rye FLOUR in place of brf , im talking about using rye GRAIN as i have no means to grind it down.
and i really dont know i followed RR's grain prep to the tee, PC'ed for 90 minuets at 15 p.s.i. inoculated through self healing rtv silicone in a still airbox in a room that had been sprayed with oust and surfaces cleaned with isopropanol. i used the type of felt Timethyl recomends using as a fliter for GE but some how ended up with 100% contam rate
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: elcooperino]
#19010114 - 10/21/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where did you get the spores?
Whatever caused it to contam will do the same thing to your cakes. you need to figure out where the contam is coming from. What type of contam was it?
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elcooperino
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19010147 - 10/21/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ebay. and well im never gonna figure it out because as far as im aware i done everthing right so im not gonna worry about it. im just gonna start from cakes wich is supposedly a less contam prone method and take it from there.
no one any experience with using whole grains in cakes?
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: elcooperino]
#19010155 - 10/21/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I doubt whole grains would work. Buy a coffee grinder or food processor. I'm sure you could even craigslist one for 5-10 bucks.
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Re: rye grain for pf tek style cakes ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19010246 - 10/21/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ebay
There is most likely your problem right there. IF you have a dirty syringe your cakes will get contamed too and all your time will be wasted.
Cakes are literally more work for less yield, why would you want that. After reading your whole process I can almost guarantee that it was your syringe. If I were you I would order from a trusted vendor of the site and stick with the bulk.
IF you can do cakes, you can to bulk
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