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No such thing as perfection? * 5
    #19010086 - 10/21/13 08:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I beg to differ! This is what happens when you have too much time for your hobby:



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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010334 - 10/21/13 09:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Are they grown in like that? Seems like they would stifle eachother's growth over time


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19010339 - 10/21/13 09:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They? That is a single plant, broseph. LST FTW


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19010343 - 10/21/13 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

WOW good job :boobs:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #19010350 - 10/21/13 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You lie!


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19010354 - 10/21/13 09:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No man he tops them.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #19010381 - 10/21/13 10:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like you probably use soil right? Can i ask what nutes you use?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19010408 - 10/21/13 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

After a few weeks vegging the top is tied down. As another branch becomes the new top then it is tied down to the edge of the bucket/planter Repeat until all tops are of an even height. As string or wire is used, the ties can be easily tightened or loosened to adjust height.

Here is a picture (not mine) that shows much clearer what is going on:



This is linear LST (low stress training). This technique was borrowed from the tomato world and adapted for cannabis.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #19010411 - 10/21/13 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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No man he tops them.




Nothing was topped. All bent.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #19010435 - 10/21/13 10:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks like you probably use soil right? Can i ask what nutes you use?




It is in a 5 gallon Lowes bucket, DWC style. I use cheap, generic dry nutes (QuickGrow). No need for expensive bloom boosters and root conditioners, colorful labels and all that BS.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010521 - 10/21/13 10:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

All bent nice, less stress.
I never got into the big brands ether.
I used floranova nutes they worked fine for me and never needed the veg because the soil gave me all i needed. Next time i will give them some added molasses.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #19010534 - 10/21/13 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Molasses is for the microbes and does not directly feed the plant. Some idiots think it makes the buds sweeter. :rolleyes:

Definitely no molasses in hydro. :nono:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010549 - 10/21/13 10:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No i use soil and only give the sugar in the final weeks then I flush.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010612 - 10/21/13 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

BEAUTIFUL!:drooling:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #19010795 - 10/21/13 11:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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All bent nice, less stress.



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No i use soil and only give the sugar in the final weeks then I flush.





And you add it, why?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010823 - 10/21/13 11:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The molasses? Because every thing I have read says it great for frosty crystals. Never have used it though, just saying I probably will when I set up again.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #19010827 - 10/21/13 11:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ah PS&P, we may argue over everything else but I think we can all agree that herb looks amazing. :thumbup: :drooling:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19010872 - 10/21/13 11:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What strain?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19010958 - 10/21/13 11:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Serious Seeds White Russian (white widow * AK47)


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011040 - 10/22/13 12:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:strokebeard:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011064 - 10/22/13 12:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

4.6 ounces of primo dried bud under 165W of DIY LED. :trophy:



Party at OC's! :mob:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011100 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's a fucking awesome grow you got going there dude. :stoned:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Withinity]
    #19011120 - 10/22/13 12:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011145 - 10/22/13 12:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Impressive.

The gal in the OP is a :thatsaten:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011148 - 10/22/13 12:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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4.6 ounces of primo dried bud under 165W of DIY LED. :trophy:



Party at OC's! :mob:



Do you have instructions on these bad boys?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: The Phleg]
    #19011265 - 10/22/13 01:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here is my newest gal, Kichiri.



This could very well be record growth. Only three weeks from sprout. The secret ingredient is electro-stimulation.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011328 - 10/22/13 01:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

THis news is cause for celebration, more wine

:cheers;

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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011341 - 10/22/13 01:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

To any mods thinking of locking this topic due to a "lack of philosophical discussion" I just want to remind you of Plato's old saying: "En cannabis veritas." :yesnod:

:happyweed:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: NetDiver]
    #19011363 - 10/22/13 01:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

"In indica sanitas"


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19011395 - 10/22/13 01:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what that means, but I'll drink to it


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: NetDiver]
    #19011411 - 10/22/13 01:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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To any mods thinking of locking this topic due to a "lack of philosophical discussion" I just want to remind you of Plato's old saying: "En cannabis veritas." :yesnod:

:happyweed:




The concept of perfection is certainly a feelosophy topic. :yesnod:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011423 - 10/22/13 01:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know what that means, but I'll drink to it




Cannabis wine is the new rage even sneaking into the backroom of mainstream vineyards in Napa Valley.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011445 - 10/22/13 01:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My own endeavors in cannawine were grotesque failures, but wine and cannabis mix well and go a long ways together. No surer way for having a good night


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011459 - 10/22/13 01:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Great combination. :thumbup:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011662 - 10/22/13 02:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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My own endeavors in cannawine were grotesque failures, but wine and cannabis mix well and go a long ways together. No surer way for having a good night




The chlorophyll must be leached out first if you are going to physically mix the two.

Before cannabis wine was the Green Dragon which is cannabis soaked in vodka. How this fail became popular is beyond me. Sure, it packs a punch, but with horrid flavor as the Green part is nothing but chlorophyll.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011699 - 10/22/13 02:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The whole thing is beyond me, but consuming them separately at once they synergize well enough


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011748 - 10/22/13 03:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

People love to complicate things. It is beyond simple. Get ahold of some pure grain alcohol (vodka contains too much water). Chill both the alcohol and the marijuana (dried or fresh) in the freezer for several hours. Trim or schwag may be used but will obviously require a greater amount than quality buds.

Get a funnel, a clean bottle and a gold screen coffee filter. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=coffee+filters+gold&tag=mh0b-20&index=aps&hvadid=3481293694&ref=pd_sl_17fdkebr6y_b

Crumble the frozen pot by hand into the filter. Pack it fairly tight. Pour the grain alcohol over the herb. If using a small amount of alcohol, using the same alcohol, pour it over a second time being sure to mix the herb up a bit to expose fresh areas. If using a large amount of alcohol, a single run should be enough. Squeeze the wet pot to get the last bit of alcohol out.

Why such a short time? Longer exposure starts to pull useless chlorophyll and waxes into the mix.

Get a second clean bottle. Put a paper coffee filter into the funnel and pour the liquid through. This gets rid of the empty trichome husks and any particulate matter. It may take several hours to drain.

Toss the plant material as there is very little left of value.

That's it. Mix with vodka or keep separate. Proportions depend on amount and strength of the herb. Be careful until you are familiar with the potency.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011790 - 10/22/13 03:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's been my plan out here actually, running tinctures to get around the smell of pot smoke. Discreet and easy


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011815 - 10/22/13 03:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Water curing pot gets rid of chlorophyll and most terpenoids. Afterwards it may be dried and smoked. The high is the same, but there is little flavor and the smell is greatly reduced.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19011830 - 10/22/13 03:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting, so since the goodies in cannabis aren't water soluble you can soak it in water and then dry it to remove excess tiny's?

Not sure exactly how this works :strokebeard:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19011872 - 10/22/13 03:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

LST FTW! :yesnod:
How many wks flowering?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19012005 - 10/22/13 04:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Interesting, so since the goodies in cannabis aren't water soluble you can soak it in water and then dry it to remove excess tiny's?




Exactly.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: JoeMama1992]
    #19012014 - 10/22/13 04:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't keep notes, but roughly 6 weeks vegging and 8 weeks flowering.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19013295 - 10/22/13 01:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I didn't keep notes, but roughly 6 weeks vegging and 8 weeks flowering.




Why keep notes, when you can just post your grow on a public site? 

LST.  Yippee.  Grew one small plant in a 5 gallon pail and made it look pretty.  Great.  Inorganic chemicals for the freaking loss.  Oh sure you probably "flushed" it.  Cause otherwise the gak attak would have been too much. As an accumulator, adding toxic laden fertilizer just end up in you regardless of the "flush".  Yeah great the plastic pail and the plastic fertilizer was cheap.  Your plasticized plant is perfection in all ways.  You controlled it.

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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19013327 - 10/22/13 01:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nice.. Shit takes a while!


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19013352 - 10/22/13 01:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Someone here is very jealous. :nono:

Take two tabs of LST and chill.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19013365 - 10/22/13 02:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Someone here is very jealous.
So what was your goal in posting all this?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19013385 - 10/22/13 02:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

To make LE, a fellow gardener, jealous.

:douchewink:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19013415 - 10/22/13 02:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think envious would be a better way to put it.  Jealous has sexual connotations and I don't think you want to go there.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Icelander]
    #19013425 - 10/22/13 02:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

1. feeling resentment against someone because of that person's rivalry, success, or advantages (often followed by of ): He was jealous of his rich brother ...


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #19013434 - 10/22/13 02:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

and then they sucked each other off

Put the whole, long, stiff definition in and then it becums queer.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19013445 - 10/22/13 02:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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To make LE, a fellow gardener, jealous.

:douchewink:




All lined up in pretty rows.
The toxic weed tied up in bows.
OrgoneDelusion grew it fast.
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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19013455 - 10/22/13 02:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I am honored that you wrote a ballad to my grow. :mypleasure:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19013656 - 10/22/13 02:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

6 week veg is old school. And don't tell me you grew that plant with a 3 watt led!


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Rahz]
    #19027435 - 10/24/13 08:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

... beautiful plant BTW.  :hitit:


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19027615 - 10/24/13 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

very nice, what was the yield on that?


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Sse]
    #19027713 - 10/24/13 09:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: Rahz]
    #19027968 - 10/24/13 10:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Rahz said:
... beautiful plant BTW.  :hitit:




Hydroponics plants always look pretty.  It's that first big hacking cough from the toxic fertilizer that brings the ugly reality back.  OP thinks coughing makes him higher.



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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19032586 - 10/25/13 09:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

OC, my brother, that is one beautiful plant.  Major Congratulations!

Back in the early '70s through the early '90s I grew my own in closets under 4' fluorescent work lights.  Never got anything as nice looking as that, but strangely enough, I grew some killer smoke.

I never went into flowering phase, and the only thing I smoked was the growing tips.  I had between 4 and 7 plants growing, spent only about 30 min a day fooling with them, and yet, once those tips got (slowly) dried enough to smoke, they were great smoke!

It took a while to build up a supply, but the plants (fertilized only with spray-on fish fertilizer) cooperated, and by 6 months in, I had enough to share with my friends and make brownies regularly.

Good days.  The last 20 years have not been conducive to stealth growing and I'm at the mercy of the market and all that that entails for a septuagenarian.

In other words, it sucks.  Whether sativa or indica, I haven't smoked anything over a 6.5 (out of 10) in over 20 years.  Sucks rocks, among other unmentionable things...


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19035353 - 10/26/13 01:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

There are certain objects in reality that may be the word perfect brought to life. Somethings revive our sense of not acknowledging things assembled with a perfection which cannot be readily denied without the person falling prone to admitting the truth that he couldn't accept readily.

I know that some realities correspond to a perfection otherwise unattainable, as if, the more you long for this greater vision of a reality in which you had no part for the creation of its glory/splendor, you discover in yourself exactly the things which were perfect but which you denied referring to as perfect for whatever reason.

Perhaps it may be because we are inclined to ignoring the aspects of ourselves which appear to vividly contrast so many flavors of perfection which manifest so clearly, so distinctly without any signs of any contradictions presenting themselves, that, indeed, to deny your perfection while in the eyes of a god whom has granted you that perfection.


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Re: No such thing as perfection? [Re: drkkenny]
    #19043236 - 10/28/13 12:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

5-7 oz

prob even more :oogle:


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