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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19008287 - 10/21/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The corn is usually only standing in the summer, when there are plenty of other food sources availiable.

I'm sure it doesn't make up the bulk of their diet, but it certainly seems that they choose to eat it.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19008319 - 10/21/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think that the reason you see so many overweight dogs around is because people own animals that are not really well suited for city life.

Have you ever met a lab that grew up on a farm, competing in retriever trials? They are sleek and muscular, nothing like the big softies in the city that maybe get 1 or 2 kms of walking in a day.

My dog is 10, an old dog, and he has to walk at least 8 km every day or he gets soft.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Patlal]
    #19008706 - 10/21/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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dark3st said:
I could care less what others do




That attitude is why our society can be so fucked up.

If only people cared about each other. If only people gave a shit what happening 5000 miles away.

Oh well, I'm not going to change the world with this thread.




I just don't think your proposed solution is practical. Punishment wouldn't solve the problem except in a slim minority of cases, and in the others it would represent a gross intrusion of the state into innocent people's private lives. Pet owners do not have exacting control over the cellular-molecular biology of their pets, and identical treatment of two different animals could lead to two very different outcomes. If a cat gets fat on a normal diet at normal activity levels in an adequate living space, where exactly has animal abuse been perpetrated? Nowhere, because it hasn't been. What more can be expected of the owner? Should the state force him to buy some feline Nordic Tract? Pet obesity stemming from demonstrable mistreatment should be dealt with under existing statutes regarding mistreatment. That is good enough. People need to get comfortable with the fact that not everything can be controlled.

In sum, what's your problem with fat cats? They're hilarious. This thread needs more pictures of fat cats.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Patlal]
    #19008823 - 10/21/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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dark3st said:
I could care less what others do




That attitude is why our society can be so fucked up.

If only people cared about each other. If only people gave a shit what happening 5000 miles away.

Oh well, I'm not going to change the world with this thread.




people who say they dont care,  usually care the most

case and point, he said he'd even call the parent out on it if he thought it was wrong


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19008859 - 10/21/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Khii Khwaay said:
The corn is usually only standing in the summer, when there are plenty of other food sources availiable.

I'm sure it doesn't make up the bulk of their diet, but it certainly seems that they choose to eat it.


ya but corn is the the biggest crop out there, people plant miles of that shit, so its everywhere for the coyetes

if you dropped corn and grew something else in that abundance, i bet then thats what the coyoete would eat

i dont think that they have a preference to corn, i have no clue if its healthy or not for them, i think they just eat it cause its there


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19008930 - 10/21/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
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Patlal said:
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dark3st said:
I could care less what others do




That attitude is why our society can be so fucked up.

If only people cared about each other. If only people gave a shit what happening 5000 miles away.

Oh well, I'm not going to change the world with this thread.




people who say they dont care,  usually care the most
case and point, he said he'd even call the parent out on it if he thought it was wrong




Oh look you took it out of context as well :brilliant:


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: dark3st]
    #19008933 - 10/21/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol what'd i miss?


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19008945 - 10/21/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Having obese children isn't considered child abuse, so why would anybody care about whether animals are fat


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Dudits]
    #19008952 - 10/21/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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a lot of them are diabetic too. Its the corn, corn meal, corn gluten (imo) that are causing it. Animals arent made to eat mass corn cearal for a daily diet.




Ya its not just the people it the crap they put in all the pet foods, and If you buy a good brand its 3x more expensive.





Actually I'm in veterinary school right now and our professor showed us that the expensive food is actually cheaper in the long run.  The more expensive food is more energy dense so the animals have to eat less of it to get the same nutrients.  The cheaper food has a lot of fillers that don't make the animal feel full so they eat more of it and in the long run you end up paying more money for the cheaper food.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19008956 - 10/21/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
lol what'd i miss?





He took the quote out of its context, therefore so did you.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: dark3st]
    #19008992 - 10/21/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One of my cats is on the verge of 16 pounds. I have no idea how she got so fat,I feed her less than the recommended amount ever since she started getting fat.

I play with her with a laser pointer so she gets exercise but she just stays fat. The vets say its probably some sort of gland problem but they can fix it.

They say she is still very healthy for a cat her size and not to worry about it.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #19009100 - 10/21/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think fat cats are funny :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: fapjack]
    #19010478 - 10/21/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Look at all these fat fucking children wobbling around.  These fat pieces of shit can't properly raise their kids, I have no expectations for them to walk their dogs everyday or control how much their cats eat.  Is it animal abuse?  I don't know, probably not.  What's a dog care if he's fat?  Not letting your animal fuck other animals is much more abusive than letting him eat what he wants.



You bring up a much better point than anyone else in this thread, thanks for your insight.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: fapjack]
    #19011921 - 10/22/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Personally, I think the government should round up and fix everybody who buys GM foods.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: zee007]
    #19013057 - 10/22/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The problems they had probably was because they cam from a breeder.



What a ridiculous generalization.  That is akin to any other sort of stereotyping / profiling.  There are good and bad breeders and good and bad bloodlines.  Getting a dog from a reputable bloodline from a good breeder with all the paperwork in order is by far your best bet in assuring a healthy dog.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: Patlal]
    #19013114 - 10/22/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One of my cats is really fat, obese even.  I've done everything to get her weight down and she won't lose weight.  Her brother is SKINNY and they both eat exactly the same diet and are both equally active.  There's no level of abuse whatsoever done to my cats and if someone said my fat cat is being abused they'd be wrong.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19013128 - 10/22/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the fat one probaly eats the skinny ones food when no one is looking maybe?


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19013149 - 10/22/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nope I stand there and watch to make sure.


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Re: Morbidly obese pets = animal abuse? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19013575 - 10/22/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Repercussions for the owner? By who? The government?


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