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Does this look like 2g dried?
    #19008116 - 10/21/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, so I'll start off by saying that I'm unsure if this is the right forum for my question so please move/delete it if not.

Today I bought some unknown dried mushrooms. The dealer didn't either know the species of the shrooms since they have passed a couple of hands already.

I expected the shrooms to be pulverized already when purchased but I guess for the liability it's better they aren't.

I've got no scale and I'm new to mushrooms so could anyone tell me if this bag looks like two dried grams? They're bruising blue and all so that's good!

Also, is it true that the volume, and therefore weight shrinks by 1/10 when you completely dry fresh mushrooms? Not surprised though if 90% of mushrooms would be water. If this is true, how much do you think these particular mushrooms in the picture would weight fresh? How much does a typical Cubensis weight? Do these even look like Cubensis?

Here's my bag: http://s21.postimg.org/5r26d94ef/IMG_4250.jpg

So many questions, and I really appreciate any help! Thanks a bunch! :smile::thumbup:


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: bulipap]
    #19008163 - 10/21/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should never buy mushrooms you do not know are safe to eat and properly identified. You shouldn't buy powdered in my opinion either but whatever. It looks hard to tell from the picture what species and it looks like you got mostly stems anyway so its going to be less potent. All that aside just a picture is hard to judge weight but it looks around 2 or three grams.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: niteman]
    #19008176 - 10/21/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not sure how someone can say stems are less potent? but it is all in the mind mainly anyways.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: B_BOY]
    #19008210 - 10/21/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not gonna lie I have only read that on here and several other mushroom related forums. Its only a handful of studies though and they may be wrong. I still eat the stems I only prefer whole mushrooms. It also makes it much easier to identify safe mushrooms.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: niteman]
    #19008215 - 10/21/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

oh i agree on the id part, i just don't know about the whole stem vs cap thing.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: niteman]
    #19008221 - 10/21/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A paperclip is usually one gram, so compare it with two of those.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: B_BOY]
    #19008225 - 10/21/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When I weigh them I don't weigh them differently though. Probably not m uch of a difference if at all


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: Telumbe Maur]
    #19008243 - 10/21/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You should never buy mushrooms you do not know are safe to eat and properly identified. You shouldn't buy powdered in my opinion either but whatever. It looks hard to tell from the picture what species and it looks like you got mostly stems anyway so its going to be less potent. All that aside just a picture is hard to judge weight but it looks around 2 or three grams.




Good point. How could I identify purchased dried mushrooms without a microscope and without exactly knowing the source of them? Someone I know said I can trust it but who knows. They're blue at least..

Anyways, I'm happy they look like a couple of grams.

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Not sure how someone can say stems are less potent? but it is all in the mind mainly anyways.




What do you mean it's all in the mind? I could believe stems are less potent but I don't know. Let's hope they work anyways. It's my first time and I'm planning on sharing them with a friend since I don't want to do them alone.

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A paperclip is usually one gram, so compare it with two of those.




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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: bulipap]
    #19008284 - 10/21/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mushrooms have the same amount of actives from pinset to maturity of the shroom, they are just distributed throughout the fruit, so neither caps nor stems are more potent. Just eat em :cookiemonster:


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: AlfredHitchcock]
    #19008307 - 10/21/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good to hear that I didn't get too ripped off! :laugh:

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Just eat em :cookiemonster:



Some quality advice right here. I think way too much..


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: AlfredHitchcock]
    #19008371 - 10/21/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mushrooms have the same amount of actives from pinset to maturity of the shroom, they are just distributed throughout the fruit, so neither caps nor stems are more potent. Just eat em :cookiemonster:




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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: bulipap]
    #19008893 - 10/21/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To me, OP....looks about right...and there is NO DIFFERENCE IN POTENCY BETWEEN CAPS AND STEMS...at least that can be measured....so you're good!:peace::sunny::dancingshroom:


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #19009085 - 10/21/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In one study looking at potency, most of the stems were slightly less potent than caps
But... This was one researcher with like 8 mushrooms, dried...
Different mushrooms, different results? Different size, mass, drying techniques... Different results?

So as far as I am concerned, there is so little data to make any claims either way.
But....

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=1645117#post1645414

http://www.shroomery.org/8755/Do-caps-or-stems-contain-more-psilocybin-psilocin

So..
If you assume though that O2 is your enemy, stems to have a higher surface to volume ratio so would loose their potency faster than caps... How much faster? Don't know...

I eat both... Silly not too


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: HarryL]
    #19009274 - 10/21/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thats like 1.2 g man


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: Deathcore]
    #19009597 - 10/21/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Can't tell you how much that is, but if you have a smartphone you can download a scale app. There's one called Weed Scale that I think is good. Try it out!


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: TheGreenBox]
    #19009620 - 10/21/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I judge it to be 1.5 grams.  Also, the blue is not mold, it's bruising which is fine and okay.


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: refried]
    #19009662 - 10/21/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That doesnt look like anything over 1.5g


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19009796 - 10/21/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That doesnt look like anything over 1.5g



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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: SynKyd]
    #19009907 - 10/21/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"The concentrations of psilocin and psilocybin, determined by high-performance liquid chromatography, were determined to be in the range of 0.14–0.42%/0.37–1.30% (dry weight) in the whole mushroom, 0.17–0.78%/0.44–1.35% in the cap and 0.09–0.30%/0.05–1.27% in the stem."

looks like vermiculite on the stem


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Re: Does this look like 2g dried? [Re: bulipap]
    #19012307 - 10/22/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Perfect. Thanks everybody! The cap-stem-potency mystery still remains but let's see how they work. :crazy::mushroom2:


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