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JoFly
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Unidentified Bright Orange mush
#19007637 - 10/21/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi all,
I need some help with id'ing a mushroom. A few weeks ago i put some (horse) manure on my lawn. The last few days we've been experiencing quite a lot of rain. This morning I noticed 2 brightly coloured mushrooms that popped up. I live in South Africa, so we've entered spring over here.
Habitat: Where does it grow? On my lawn What does it grow on? Horse manure (among others)
Gills: The gills are white (see photo)
** After leaving them over night, the gills went a darker colour (picture added)
Stem: About 7cm long, roughly 1cm in diameter. Colour is similar to the cap and hollow.
Cap: The caps are roughly 2.5cm in diameter and deep orange. I've attached a photo with a ruler to make sizing easy.
Spore print color: Busy getting the spore print. Will update tomorrow.
** Spore print is light brown. Strangely, only one of the 2 left a print.
Bruising: Can't see any bruising on the stem. I'll bruise the caps after getting the spore prints.
** No bruising on the caps, but they seem to have 3 layers. A thin outer layer that is the bright orange. Then a little thicker white inner layer (no more than 2mm), then a usual brown mushroom colour (probably the gills).
Other information: Smells like normal button mushrooms...

Edited by JoFly (10/21/13 10:43 PM)
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: JoFly]
#19007714 - 10/21/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It could be Pholiota tuberculosa
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: cbub]
#19007732 - 10/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cbub said: It could be Pholiota tuberculosa 
I thought Pholiota too but that's just a guess at best.
I'm sure a T.I will chime in.
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: lsms]
#19007765 - 10/21/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm thinking Cystoderma species maybe. Op,you should make a spore print.
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JoFly
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19007779 - 10/21/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the feedback. Initially I also thought Pholiota from what I could find on the Internet.
As I stated in my original post, I'm currently collecting the prints. Will check in about 2 hrs if there's anything, else I'll leave it till tomorrow.
I've got them on different coloured sheets in case the prints are white.
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: lsms]
#19007781 - 10/21/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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tuberculosa because they've been found on manure here and then and close to white gills when young. Also related to button mushrooms. Can't go as far as determining them though. It's south africa.
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19007799 - 10/21/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe a Flammulaster species?
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19007804 - 10/21/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blue-FunGuy said: I'm thinking Cystoderma species maybe. Op,you should make a spore print.
I was going to say Cystoderma amianthinum but it doesn't seem quite right.
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RiverDweller1



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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Ran-D]
#19007809 - 10/21/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think it's a Cystoderma species.
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: RiverDweller1]
#19007815 - 10/21/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's cool whatever it is!
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Ran-D]
#19007837 - 10/21/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ran-D said:
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Blue-FunGuy said: I'm thinking Cystoderma species maybe. Op,you should make a spore print.
I was going to say Cystoderma amianthinum but it doesn't seem quite right.
Yeah,I'm not sure what these are. I like RD's guess.
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JoFly
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19007996 - 10/21/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No spores after 3hrs. Guess they were a bit young. I'll leave them over night and report back (it's 19:15 here)
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: JoFly]
#19008195 - 10/21/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spore print white? Free gill attachment? Let us know what color the gills are in the morning. Is it more powdery or more scaly?
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JoFly
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At the moment it's a combo of both. Orange powder rubs off with handling, but there are also scaly bits that fall off (check the last picture; allthough not very clear).
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JoFly
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: JoFly]
#19011143 - 10/21/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've updated my original post with more info. To make the new info easier to find, i added ** in front of it. I also added a new photo of the spore print and gills.
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: JoFly]
#19012672 - 10/22/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Flammulaster species is a good possibility given the brown print. I think RD was correct.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19012700 - 10/22/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blue-FunGuy said: Flammulaster species is a good possibility given the brown print. I think RD was correct.
Flammulaster does not have free gill attachment. Consider Agaricus crocopeplus and related species.
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Blue-FunGuy
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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Blue-FunGuy said: Flammulaster species is a good possibility given the brown print. I think RD was correct.
Flammulaster does not have free gill attachment.
I thought the gills were attached.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Unidentified Bright Orange mush [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#19012717 - 10/22/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks free to me in the last pic
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RiverDweller1



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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
Consider Agaricus crocopeplus and related species.
agree
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