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Justcollecting
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Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated!
#19007315 - 10/21/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am new to this forum and to picking and I have done as much research as I can, to the point where I was becoming more confused than I was learning. I decided thus to make a post stating what I think I need to do and as a guide to locals who have similar interests. I welcome any feedback as I am new and obviously will not have the method down perfectly.
I live in the New South Wales region, in an area heavily covered in pine forests. I believe the 2 types of mushroom that are most likely to be found near me are Psilocybe Subaeruginosa in the pine forests and Psilocybe Cubensis in the nearby farms as there is a lot of animal farming locally and therefore fertile patties for the growing of Cubensis. Correct me if these not the correct types to be found in these 2 habitats in NSW.
The weather forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms and the day after is light showers, the following day will be a high of 90% humidity and sunny. I think that my best chance is to go on the sunny, humid day as growth for these 2 species is around 24-30 hours after the rain ends? Again, I am not sure but this is me putting together what I have read in various threads.
It is currently halfway through spring so I think the pickings should be good after a couple days heavy rain and humidity, however I do not know the specific techniques for finding the groups of mushrooms. I am heading out to a pine forest on a river, hopefully to find some Sub, as well as east to the National parks nearby for the same species. What I want to know is if I should be looking around dead trees? in foliage? where specifically within this habitat should the shrooms be more common?
I will then roam through some local paddocks to see if I chance upon any Cubensis growing out of piles of dung.
I think the spore tests for both of these are supposed to turn out dark blue/ brown by placing the cap underneath a glass for an hour or 2 and seeing what color spores cover the glass? I am not sure of the procedure because there seem to be a few ways to check spores and I just picked the easiest sounding, even if it seemed a bit unrealistically easy.
Both should bruise to be bluish/purple as far as I know and are quite different in looks to the most threatening poisonous mushrooms as well as there not being the right climate for the Death Cap which is a dangerous lookalike to many species of Ps.
Is there anything else I need to know when picking and is any of my information wrong? I would appreciate responses so I can alleviate some pressure and increase my chances of success.
Wish me luck, I will post results and hopefully this can become a good guide for any others near me or in similar climates once I get results.
Edited by Justcollecting (10/21/13 07:21 AM)
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Joie


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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007327 - 10/21/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not answering much of that because all your specifics about locations and weather are against the rules.
The colour of the spore print is nothing to do with bruising. Psilocybe mushrooms have deep purple-brown spores. To obtain a spore print just leave a fresh cap gills down on a sheet of paper or whatever suits your purposes, yes it is that easy.
If you are frightened of making a mistake post your finds here. Not much else to be said about that for now, no point distinguishing magic mushrooms from a gazillion other species if you haven't picked a single mushroom yet!
The main thing when you have reached the point you are at is to get off the computer and hunt.
Good luck!
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Justcollecting
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Joie]
#19007342 - 10/21/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I removed the region name is that the main problem? It would be kind of pointless to remove the fact it is in NSW as then it doesn't help anyone else local at all and it doesn't get me the accurate response I need. What do you mean about weather being against the rules? Is it really not allowed to post what the weather is like where I live? Thanks for the hint on the rules btw, even if they are confusing.
Yeah I will go hunting but I don't think there is any point today as it has been dry for a week and today is the first thunderstorm in ages.
I will be sure to post pictures of bruises, spore tests, caps and all that so people can let me know if they are safe.
Thanks for all the info too.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007352 - 10/21/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your'e welcome.
The problem is the whole first half of the post but don't worry. And I'm not the enforcer.
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Justcollecting
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Joie]
#19007363 - 10/21/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just read the rules and I think it should be okay because they ask us to refrain from asking questions that can easily be answered. I'm more jsut making this post as a summary than as a bunch of easy questions. The reason the ?s are in there is so people know I am not 100% sure and don't follow my advice, pick a random death cap and die by my fault.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007365 - 10/21/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Hunting Forum Rules can be found here.
The season for Psilocybe subaeruginosa is well and truly over now. They grow over winter. I don't know whether Psilocybe cubensis is common in your area. It may be too dry/inland for them. It's also probably a bit early.
Death caps (Amanita phalloides) would be hard to mistake for a Psilocybe. A closer look alike (at least for P. subaeruginosa) is Galerina marginata. P. cubensis are harder to mistake for a deadly species.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Joie]
#19007376 - 10/21/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Joie said: I'm not answering much of that because all your specifics about locations and weather are against the rules.
What does that mean? The area he speaks of is surrounded rural farmland, it's a massive area and naming the town doesn't give any hints as to where others can look.
Justcollecting - send some of that rain up the mountain to Springwood, those bushfires are about to consolidate into one giant mightmare by tomorrow I hear 
EDIT: OK, just saw the link to the rules after I posted this.....
Edited by barong (10/21/13 07:39 AM)
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: barong]
#19007381 - 10/21/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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barong, it means what it says. Don't ignore the rules.
We try pretty hard. I think I was helpful.
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Justcollecting
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: TimmiT]
#19007388 - 10/21/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks TImmi, good to have a heads up on the dangerous caps that look similar. I jsut checked and you are right, Sub season ends in August apparently, which is a bit of a bummer, I think I was confused with http://www.shroomery.org/8773/Magic-Mushroom-Field-Guide Cyanescens. However from reading further into it, it is uncertain whether Cyanescens are in Australia or if it is just a look-alike and so it looks like my hopes rest mostly on Cube. However, I will grab every fungi I can carry and bring them all back for testing just in case some of the rarer species or the out of season ones do appear by chance.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007395 - 10/21/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For now take it as though every time I said Sub I meant Cyan because that is basically what works, thank god I posted this or I would have been looking for the wrong thing without being corrected. I hope that Cyanescens are in my area as most people here say they are. The thread at http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7487 seems to be saying that it is uncertain but this is a 10 year old thread so perhaps Cyanescens were only beginning to enter the area 10 years ago and are now well established, in which case Hurray for me.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007416 - 10/21/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just up the road in the vast forests of Oberon, they are subs.
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Justcollecting
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: barong]
#19007423 - 10/21/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you find Subs there recently or back when it was Sub season? I would be heaps keen to go grab some Subs if you know where they are, just PM me the specific location and I'll run the whole way there
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007428 - 10/21/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stop fucking doing that!
It isn't good for you or nature or anyone or this site if you do. Learn to enjoy and respect nature, and to ID your mushrooms. Don't just ask where the drugs are.
Do I sound pissed off?
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Justcollecting
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Joie]
#19007447 - 10/21/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doing what? I just meant to ask if he had seen them recently as they are out of season, he seems to be local to me so if he has seen them then I will definitely go hunting for them soon. The running there part was just me exaggerating my happiness, I would obviously take my time and test them like any others.
Are you saying that if someone told you they had found a fountain that produced acid near you you wouldn't ask them where and go check it out? Now, I know that dream is impossible (unfortunately) but it's similar with getting a hint on a nearby hotspot.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007493 - 10/21/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asking for the specific location.
There are lots of reasons why it is a good rule. These forums are great and a lot of people are providing a difficult service for free here so please don't argue.
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Re: Bathurst First Timer!!! Advice appreciated! [Re: Justcollecting]
#19007515 - 10/21/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Please take another look at the Hunting Forum Rules
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