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Is this an active mimosa? (DMT)
    #19006823 - 10/21/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So came accross few hundred possibly thousands of these trees. Can anyone confirm weither these are mimosa hostilis? or perhaps a similar active species? I dont think its a mimosa hostilis but i have a feeling it may be active?











Sorry about image size. i resized them all but then tried to upload and they were not able to upload due to being not a jpeg so i gave up sorry


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19007380 - 10/21/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1: There is no photos showing
2: You don't say were you are and if they are in native bush
3: What makse you think they are active

I wasted 5 minutes and worked out what country you are in and goggled mimosa hostilis looked at this page and found your answer.

And the answer is NO

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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19010804 - 10/21/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for your time but how did you come to the conclusion that they are not active? where abouts in that page did you decide they were not active? did you even see my pictures? as you said you cannot see them.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19010923 - 10/21/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We can't see your pictures because you're trying to link them from your gmail account, which wont work. You need to either host them on an image hosting site, then link to them. Or you upload the pictures directly to the shroomery and include the image code in your post>>link

Try posting some pictures so we can help you.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: karode13]
    #19010956 - 10/21/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like you are from Australia or New Zealand
So pretty easy to look at where active mimosa grows and make the determination

But... Are they actually acacia sp.?  Which do have some species that have DMT and other active chemicals...

So... My advice is to post pictures.... Blooms help if possible


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19010978 - 10/21/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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thanks for your time but how did you come to the conclusion that they are not active? where abouts in that page did you decide they were not active? did you even see my pictures? as you said you cannot see them.




You are saying that you have found hundreds if not thousands of trees which would normally mean they are native to your area. The page that I linked you to says quite clearly where they grow and unless I am totally confused you don't live in one of the country's that  Mimosa hostilis is native to.



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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011002 - 10/21/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)









leafs dont quite look like mimosa hostilis but the tree in whole looks very similar when in full bloom. i seen these trees once and reminded me of pics i seen on the internet. Im hopefull that they are active!


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19011012 - 10/21/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Catfish Swiming said:
thanks for your time but how did you come to the conclusion that they are not active? where abouts in that page did you decide they were not active? did you even see my pictures? as you said you cannot see them.




You are saying that you have found hundreds if not thousands of trees which would normally mean they are native to your area. The page that I linked you to says quite clearly where they grow and unless I am totally confused you don't live in one of the country's that  Mimosa hostilis is native to.



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They have been planted there. definatly not indigenous to the area they are in, although i have no idea if they are native to my country though but i would assume not? but im not too sure


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011051 - 10/21/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's definitely not a Mimosa sp.

Probably an Acacia sp as it doesn't seem to fit the description for Brush Wattle, Paraserianthes lophantha, which is a weed in Aotearoa. Post some pictures of the fully developed flowers and I may be able to id it for you. Any seedpods laying around or on the plant will help too.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011089 - 10/21/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thanks for your reply. yes it actually does look like a acacia. only pictures that i have are the ones i have posted. However the flowers look different to the Paraserianthes lophantha species you said it could possibly be.

Although the picture of the undevoloped flowers give you an idea of what they will look like. The colour of the flowers is a bright, true yellow.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011158 - 10/21/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Also found this growing right alongside the trees. It looked familar so i snapped a pic. Looks similar to some watyls to me? what do you think? could we have a winner?


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011236 - 10/21/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ok i feel like i am spaming the shit out of my own thread... but i think my tree i have found is Acacia Mearnsii. Is said to contain roughly 1% dmt in root bark.

Take a look at the picture of the undeveloped flowers in my picture then look at pictures of flowers of other mearnsii flowers!



Also i found some of these on the plant but i thought they were some sort of fungas which was not an actual part of the tree. (this pic is of a acacia mearnsii) (turns out it is actually fungus! but it grows on the black wattle and forms a relationship with ants, etc)



now i am 90% sure this is an active species can i have some opinons?

I must now also note that there are two look alikes of this plant which are reported to contain no alkaloids.

A.decurrens (which looks very much like mearnsii! hard to tell apart!)
A.dealbata (i do not think my plant is this, although it does look similar so is still a posibility!)


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011425 - 10/21/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, that first one is indeed A. mearnsii, although I think you're confused about its alkaloid content. Proving me wrong is now up to you. :wink:

Second one with strappy leaves is definitely an Acacia. Might even be A. longifolia but need more pictures to be sure. Some of the leaves, including the tip, any flowers/seeds and any mature bark might help confirm this.

Those galls are caused by a fungus rust too. Usually a species of Uromycladium.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: karode13]
    #19011454 - 10/21/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wow sweet. How do you mean i am confused with the alkaloid content?


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19011473 - 10/21/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

By confused I mean; I think you've read something that's not correct. It's not on any DMT containing lists to my knowledge. Extractions that have been done with this species seems not to yield anything of significance.

If I'm wrong please provide a link so I can correct myself.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: karode13]
    #19011506 - 10/21/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I read on a forum that it contained 1.2% dmt in the root bark. Although it is reported that this is seasonal. Also they did not sote their sources so im assuming this is speculation? I gues theres only one way to found out!

(edit!) I found their source... right here on the shroomery!

"..it was also re-confirmed at the conference (by chocobeastle) that around 1.2% DMT was extracted from Acacia mearnsii in central Victoria..four months later, however, the same tree had no alkaloids..i saw this tree everywhere in the area, and spot tests look good for tryptamine content..Acacia mearnsii (Black Wattle) is very common inland from Sydney to Melbourne.."

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15581757#15581757


So its looking promising.


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Re: Is this an active mimosa? (DMT) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #19012637 - 10/22/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Please note that there are some 3,000 species of acacia
Not all contain active chemicals

See: http://www.anbg.gov.au/acacia/

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