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BittrBuffalo
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19006553 - 10/20/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It has nothing to do with not liking the rating system or dropping out.
It has everything to do with the rate you give should be the rate received.
This presumes that there aren't tons of cunty people in this world. The ratings system seems sort of unfair, but it factors in a "consider the source" element that one wouldn't necessarily see otherwise if one didn't know the rating party's level of general assholitude. It's still not perfect, because people who give out lots of positive ratings can still be divas with delicate egos that are easily bruised, and they may gleefully ratings-fuck others to preserve their perceived dominance at teh Shroomereh. If the rated party finds this behavior unbearably obnoxious, they can choose to dispense with it entirely and opt out.
Does the ratings system adjust your previous ratings based on your current weighted ratings? Like if I rated a bunch of people with zeros, then went back and deleted like half of them, would the remaining zeros recalculate into weighing more than they did when the rating was given? Did someone already ask that? Maybe it was me. Anyway. Yes. So does it do that?
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19006574 - 10/20/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think the answer is that, yes, they would be recalculated. it appears that they are recalculated for positive ratings, so i see no reason why it would not be so for negative ratings. i still think that general rates are bullshit and constitute a lot of drama that happens around this place. i know that i get a lot of ratings notifications, which i promptly ignore.
i could be wrong, but somehow i don't think that's the case.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19006693 - 10/21/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acidic_Sloth said: i still think that general rates are bullshit and constitute a lot of drama that happens around this place. i know that i get a lot of ratings notifications, which i promptly ignore.
You should opt out then
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19006731 - 10/21/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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why? because i ignore everyone's bitching about their ratings?
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19006753 - 10/21/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19006890 - 10/21/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Disruptive member! Quick get them
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19007132 - 10/21/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acidic_Sloth said: i still think that general rates are bullshit and constitute a lot of drama that happens around this place.
Yup. That's one of the reasons they should go away.
I suspect the overall "adultness" of the site would improve.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19007856 - 10/21/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe a collective opt-out is in order? That way the kids can go play with their "like" buttons and the grown ups can measure their dicks in more creative ways.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19007860 - 10/21/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What are falsereality's rating values after normalization?
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19009191 - 10/21/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acidic_Sloth said: wonder why i'm the only one who can get it to work. YTHAN! YOUR SHIT IS BORKED!
I've been waiting years to say this:
"Do me, Acidic_Sloth."
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Adden]
#19019339 - 10/23/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Ythan]
#19019801 - 10/23/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ythan said: I like the weighted rating system and I disagree with your assertion that it sucks ass.
IMO the implementation is kind of nonsensical. If you give out mostly 5's or mostly zeros then it makes sense that those ratings should have less power from you. Supercharging the opposite rating is the part that's ripe for abuse. Effectively it gives certain people more than one vote. Giving out a lot of 5's doesn't mean that your 0's are more discerning or meaningful, it just means that you had a lot of time on your hands to exploit the system. Hiding the page that shows rating weights is not going to solve the problem, because everyone already knows that giving out tons of 5's and few 0's will supercharge the 0's you do give out.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#19020351 - 10/23/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Acidic_Sloth said: i still think that general rates are bullshit and constitute a lot of drama that happens around this place.
Yup. That's one of the reasons they should go away.
I suspect the overall "adultness" of the site would improve.
I like them. Its a nice way to compliment someone or to receive compliments. If people are too childish to handle that, I really don't think removing a perfectly useful feature is going to solve that problem.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: johnm214]
#19021852 - 10/23/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you're probably right, john. i just haven't really seen them used that way i guess. then again, i don't go around looking at ratings and the like and all see is the bullshit through ratings notifications (i think i get 2-3 times as many of those as regular notifications).
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: johnm214]
#19022101 - 10/23/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also don't forget, the general ratings were originally added to benefit the mycology forums and help people decide whose advice they could trust. But a lot of our members never even set foot in the mycology forums, so the ratings sort of just morphed into their current form over time.
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psi said: If you give out mostly 5's or mostly zeros then it makes sense that those ratings should have less power from you. Supercharging the opposite rating is the part that's ripe for abuse. Effectively it gives certain people more than one vote. Giving out a lot of 5's doesn't mean that your 0's are more discerning or meaningful, it just means that you had a lot of time on your hands to exploit the system. Hiding the page that shows rating weights is not going to solve the problem, because everyone already knows that giving out tons of 5's and few 0's will supercharge the 0's you do give out.
Yeah, that's a valid point. I'm not sure about the best way to improve it, but I'll give it some thought.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Ythan]
#19045946 - 10/28/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ythan said: I'm not sure about the best way to improve it, but I'll give it some thought.
Normally I'd suggest ensuring that: 5's are 5's 4's are 4's 3's are 3's 2's are 2's 1's are 1's and 0's are 0's...
but that'd be crazy talk.
Imagine the audacity of people having the nerve to think that the rate they give... is actually the rate received.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19067214 - 11/01/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They should be weighted only in the way that users are rated themselves. If a 1/5 Shroomerite gives you a 0, it shouldn't mean shit. If a 5/5 Shroomerite gives you a 5, it should show that quality users think you're a quality user.
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19087994 - 11/04/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can someone tell me my weighted ratings please?
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19088033 - 11/04/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ratings left by mjmihalov would be worth these values after normalization: Rating of 0 = -0.9251 Rating of 1 = 0.2431 Rating of 2 = 1.4113 Rating of 3 = 2.5795 Rating of 4 = 3.7477 Rating of 5 = 4.916
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Re: I still can't figure out the weighted ratings [Re: Shroomism]
#19088035 - 11/04/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks.
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