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bulkgrownoob
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Great success removing contams from monotubs
#19006497 - 10/20/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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On a recent project, I had trich invasions in a few of my monos. If I caught them early enough I was able to completely remove the contams without further issue and the tubs continued to flush as if they were never contam'd. Here is the method I used.
Take lid off tub. Use your hands to snap off a chunk of the substrate where the contam is (snap off a chunk bigger than the visual contam because it's mycelium is growing in your substrate and it's not just where you see the green). The next few steps could be overkill because no matter what you do, there's still going to be a gazillion mold spores left hanging around on your substrate. But this is what I do. Throw out the contam'd piece of substrate. Wash my hands well. Wipe the lid down with ISO. Lift substrate out of tub and place it on the tubs lid. Clean out the tub with soap and water, dry it out and place the substrate back in.
I had 6 contam'd tubs on that last project, and 4 of them were literally saved by doing this. They each got a few more flushes and the green didn't even appear again before I threw them out. Of course, I recommend keeping these in a separate area from your other projects no matter what. If you don't have that luxury then just throw your tubs outside or I'm the garbage as soon as they contam. I realize this isn't very valuable information and I'm sure this will get some negative feedback but we've all had that one time when we just couldn't afford to start a whole new project and needed to stretch our current project to its limit. For people in the situation, this is indeed very helpful. At least for me it was.
Side note: this works best when your contam is on or near the edge of your substrate. If it's in the middle, you'll have to break your sub into a million pieces to get the contam'd section out. The reason I break it with my hands as opposed to cutting it is because by avoiding the knife, you avoid slicing into the uncolonized center of your grains which would have an adverse effect and probably just spread the contam faster. Hope this helps somebody out. Thanks for reading
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#19006508 - 10/20/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You got lucky. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Bury an infected tub outside. Letting infected tubs mature will do nothing but contam your workspace and cause you more failure in the future.
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Giggle_Grower
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19006524 - 10/20/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agreed with Mush4brains. Luck(if there is such a thing) was on your side. But im glad you had a 66% survival rate. Edit- and agree with DeadPhan below.
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Edited by Giggle_Grower (10/20/13 11:46 PM)
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#19006542 - 10/20/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is kinda retarded. A healthy colonized sub should be contam resistant as much as it is. Taking out a piece of infected area is not much of a science as spores of all types are present pretty much from the get go. Being any more or less careful about removing such really isn't where one goes right or wrong. It's at that point just nature taking its course. I'm sure removing a piece might keep that area that has a hold on your sub from spreading, but at that point there are spores everywhere Nd your sub not succumbing to it is only because it's resistant. You better believe that shit is everywhere no mTter how careful you were removing it
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: DeadPhan]
#19006562 - 10/20/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Basically. You rip out the chuck of contam n cross your fingers for whatever the sub produces after that. No need for taking out or wiping down and the like. Pretty much is definitely overkill and didn't help your end results IMHO. if anything I would imagine it hindering as moving the sub would just throw all that much more spores up as well as let them land in places otherwise untouched such as the bottom. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. But yea. You basically lucked out I think. Pulled a flush out of a contamed sub. Not rocket science. I have read accounts of people ripping out areas of contams. It certainly helps to not spread as much. But ur shits compromised all the same. I dig Tryna pull out what u can from it. But it's as simple as cut out visually contamed area and hope for the best.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: DeadPhan]
#19006674 - 10/21/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have removed contamed pieces from tubs a bunch of different time.
I just use a disinfected boot knife. It works great for me too saved
tubs and they grew back green free.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: rumfor69]
#19006711 - 10/21/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You and your Lysol.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: DeadPhan]
#19006728 - 10/21/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
DeadPhan said: You and your Lysol. 
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Lysol is my shepherd; I shall not want Lysol maketh green molds lie down; it leadeth me beside the still air Lysol restorth my grow: it leadeth me in the paths of no contamination for my harvests sake Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of bacteria, I fear no surface, for Lysol art with me, thy can and thy rag they comfort me
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bulkgrownoob
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19007282 - 10/21/13 06:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not here I argue about it. It's not something that's gonna revolutionize growing mushrooms. It's simply just something that worked great for me and I'm sure it will help someone else even if I have to get bashed for sounding a little retarded. Don't knock it until you try it. If you throw your subs out when or before they contam, more power to you. I just happened to be doing my hobby at a place where it's never going to happen again so spore loading the area wasn't an issue, especially with 2 separate rooms far away from each other(1 for contams and 1 for healthy tubs). I was simply interested in stretching each tub to its limits and this method helped me get numerous flushes after the contam appeared. And by the way I got 100% success rate, not 66. I only did this with 4 out of the 6 tubs. The other 2 I either cut, left the spots there or put a cup over it. The green spread like wildfire from the source in all instances.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#19007318 - 10/21/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've tried it all and never beat the mean green for more than a flush. Nice job getting more, but this is really bad advice if your talking about removing patches of green. I personally spot trich before it blooms, while it is chalky white and have tried and tried eradication. Failed every time, the one time I got an extra flush was when I cut out fresh white trich and put salt in the hole. Got one more flush and the salt dessicated the sub like it was a snail, then the green came back with a vengeance.
Another point I'd like to make is that when you see trich on the surface of the sub, it's too late, the trich mycelium grows through the sub just like mushroom mycelium. You got lucky if you were able to cut out the entire organism by removing the visible areas.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#19007401 - 10/21/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bulkgrownoob said: I had 6 contam'd tubs on that last project, and 4 of them were literally saved by doing this. They each got a few more flushes and the green didn't even appear again before I threw them out.
As long as those few flushes were worth giving up the hobby until you move to a new house, you're good. The reason we don't ever cut molds out of substrates is because it releases billions of spores into your home. They stick to the walls, ceiling, curtains, floors, etc., only to break loose and become airborne with changes of temperature or a breeze, and will ruin your future projects.
Expect a much higher rate of contamination in the future. A quick search will reveal many threads like this one claiming success. They will be followed in a month or two with a thread asking 'why is everything I grow all of a sudden getting trich' when it wasn't like this before. Another month or two and we never see that member again because they've given up on the hobby. RR
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19009453 - 10/21/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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if these do spread that vast from small patches being removed RR then how do we clean so we can win now that we might have a flow hood????
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: rumfor69]
#19009464 - 10/21/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ammonia and elbow grease. Top to bottom and all points in between LOL
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: skippydude]
#19009486 - 10/21/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agreed. Then air out the house and run that flowhood it your work area for a long time. Might work. Might not.
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Re: Great success removing contams from monotubs [Re: rumfor69]
#19010260 - 10/21/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: if these do spread that vast from small patches being removed RR then how do we clean so we can win now that we might have a flow hood????
I take contammed tubs outside, glove up, and put everything inside the tub in a garbage bag. Then clean the entire tub with bleach/soap. You may want to strip off your clothes before you go back inside and take a shower, yeah?
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