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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011495 - 10/21/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Withinity said: I get that man, some people are born into some really shitty circumstances that are hard to escape especially where third world countries are concerned and even in first world countries people suffer especially as the conditions keep growing worse. That's not my point though.
All I'm saying is we still don't have any grounds of comparison because as far as we know we only have existed here in this lifetime. Also I'm pretty sure existence came before man , like we did not create the earth but we did shit all over it that's for sure... that's on us though how could anyone blame existence for that.
Well the primary features of my childhood were neglect, starvation, violence and loneliness. Wasn't anything pretty about it, straight misery
All that taught me was to enjoy the goodtimes more, along those lines I feel sorry for people who had it easy and I genuinely pity those who grew up without reason to appreciate the good things in life. Having something to eat for dinner every night, some weed to smoke and halfway civilized company is more than I could ask for. Really, living well below the poverty line in the US has been living the high life for me.
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Good on you man its a great thing when you don't take what you have for granted. I have seen many people who are born into situations of having any opportunity or thing they want and more often than not they end up struggling with existence all the same going mad on their own self demise or otherwise. IMO Being content with simplicity will go a long way in this lifetime which is the impression i get from you.
That was an awesome performance , i could sense some gypsy influence there when the brass came into play.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011570 - 10/22/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Withinity said: I get that man, some people are born into some really shitty circumstances that are hard to escape especially where third world countries are concerned and even in first world countries people suffer especially as the conditions keep growing worse. That's not my point though.
All I'm saying is we still don't have any grounds of comparison because as far as we know we only have existed here in this lifetime. Also I'm pretty sure existence came before man , like we did not create the earth but we did shit all over it that's for sure... that's on us though how could anyone blame existence for that.
You don't need any grounds for comparison. If life sucks for you then it sucks period and that's all one needs to know. And if you're pissed because you didn't ask for this as far as you know then that's totally valid also.
You could jump off a bridge if you hated it so much like many have and you will no longer exist but the fact we are all here sharing suggests otherwise. Blaming existence is the biggest coppout that ever existed.
This is a crock of shit imo. Some of course do manage to jump off a bridge but life itself makes that difficult via instinct and death anxiety. Blaming existence is completely valid if that's how you see things. Nobody is making you see things that way so what the fuck do you care?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011592 - 10/22/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Life is good shit man, unless your shits really fucked up there's almost too much to enjoy.
Just pirated that Ciocarlia, friend of mine showed me that a few months ago but was too high to remember the name. Got it now
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All depends on the person the experience/situation the time and the place. I've been in both places and find both to be valid ways of looking at things.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011659 - 10/22/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why do i care? I'm not sure really probably for some selfish reason like trying to fish out responses such as yours to make me question shit further.
I consider it a cop-out because its the one thing you cant change short of offing yourself , you exist and continue to use the functions of existence. I maintain the idea that existence came before man came into existence so why should existence cop the blame for what we monkeys have done with it , going to do and are doing.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011680 - 10/22/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Furthermore IMO if you blame anything or anyone your setting yourself up to a certain extent , its an endless cycle you can just keep on blaming and blaming without anything ever changing. Sure its not my place to say but its no wounder things seem so bleak when one gives all the power to things outside of themselves. This i'm just talking from personal experience not directed at anyone.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011693 - 10/22/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: All depends on the person the experience/situation the time and the place. I've been in both places and find both to be valid ways of looking at things.
All depends really
In my own perspective, been through too much shit with shit being as lush as it is now to be pessimistic about it. Things could very well continue on a negative streak with no opportunity for reconciliation, children starve to death every day and people spoil rotten. I pity the general mass of life
To some degree... but past the melancholic stages of the night, when I actually have to confront that mass of eager stupidity, the whole deal changes rapidly.
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#19011711 - 10/22/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Withinity said: Why do i care? I'm not sure really probably for some selfish reason like trying to fish out responses such as yours to make me question shit further.
I consider it a cop-out because its the one thing you cant change short of offing yourself , you exist and continue to use the functions of existence. I maintain the idea that existence came before man came into existence so why should existence cop the blame for what we monkeys have done with it , going to do and are doing.
Are you seriously saying that you get to decide what to do with life? Try not getting disease, injury or aging. We only do with existence what we are encoded by nature to do with it. The rest is subjective. Each person gets to decide for themselves if it rocks or sucks and they will all be right.
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Icelander said: All depends on the person the experience/situation the time and the place. I've been in both places and find both to be valid ways of looking at things.
All depends really
In my own perspective, been through too much shit with shit being as lush as it is now to be pessimistic about it. Things could very well continue on a negative streak with no opportunity for reconciliation, children starve to death every day and people spoil rotten. I pity the general mass of life
To some degree... but past the melancholic stages of the night, when I actually have to confront that mass of eager stupidity, the whole deal changes rapidly.
It's subjective. That's all we can say. So imo it's all equally valid as a pov.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011727 - 10/22/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Withinity said: Why do i care? I'm not sure really probably for some selfish reason like trying to fish out responses such as yours to make me question shit further.
I consider it a cop-out because its the one thing you cant change short of offing yourself , you exist and continue to use the functions of existence. I maintain the idea that existence came before man came into existence so why should existence cop the blame for what we monkeys have done with it , going to do and are doing.
Are you seriously saying that you get to decide what to do with life? Try not getting disease, injury or aging. We only do with existence what we are encoded by nature to do with it. The rest is subjective. Each person gets to decide for themselves if it rocks or sucks and they will all be right.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011732 - 10/22/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems that way to me, but at the same time I see a lot of people running through the motions or otherwise fixating on MOs which are arguably adverse to their state of consciousness...
Not sure exactly how to phrase that at this moment, but it seems to me that despite the limitations we're given a lot of people add their own which could be avoided (seemingly).
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Repertoire89 said: Seems that way to me, but at the same time I see a lot of people running through the motions or otherwise fixating on MOs which are arguably adverse to their state of consciousness...
Not sure exactly how to phrase that at this moment, but it seems to me that despite the limitations we're given a lot of people add their own which could be avoided (seemingly).
IMO everyone wants to be happy and healthy but their internal programs might just be preventing that and not within their conscious control. They are bound to fail, trying the same things over and over hoping for different results.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011772 - 10/22/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you seriously saying that you get to decide what to do with life? Try not getting disease, injury or aging. We only do with existence what we are encoded by nature to do with it. The rest is subjective. Each person gets to decide for themselves if it rocks or sucks and they will all be right.
Your completely right in saying that each person gets to decide for themselves , i cannot contend that.
But yes IMO you do get to decide what you do with your life within a context. I cant try to not age because my body was designed to do as such but i can style it to my own preferences whilst its still in the early stages of that process, before disease or severe injury strike (if they do). We have no examples of immortality , anything organic will die as far as we know but the effect that has on each individual is a variable.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
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Its only speculation past my own state of mind and largely within my own mind, it seems like there are opportunities for many of those I know to solve their problems with relative ease. Yet at the same time I know from personal experience that what you say about mental anagrams bears a lot of weights
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That's cause you're a heartless bastard.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011808 - 10/22/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: That's cause you're a heartless bastard. 
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011810 - 10/22/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you seriously saying that you get to decide what to do with life? Try not getting disease, injury or aging. We only do with existence what we are encoded by nature to do with it. The rest is subjective. Each person gets to decide for themselves if it rocks or sucks and they will all be right.
Your completely right in saying that each person gets to decide for themselves , i cannot contend that.
But yes IMO you do get to decide what you do with your life within a context. I cant try to not age because my body was designed to do as such but i can style it to my own preferences whilst its still in the early stages of that process, before disease or severe injury strike (if they do). We have no examples of immortality , anything organic will die as far as we know but the effect that has on each individual is a variable.
Dna can override any choices you might be able to make for yourself so it's kind of a wash in many cases. My point however was in your first paragraph. Leave others to subjectively decide what life means for themselves. They will be no more or less correct than you are.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19011855 - 10/22/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't worry , i don't consider myself correct by any means. I was kinda just venting much like the nature of this thread. I could be singing the same tune as OP a Month from now as i have sung it before.
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