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EternalCowabunga
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Fuck the real world 6
#19006176 - 10/20/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The real world SUCKS.
Life's a bitch and then you die, that's why we take Kratom and get high.
I feel foolish for ever judging Icelander on self-medicating. His idea that we are basically molded into who we are going to be in our childhood rings true to me.
This must be the reason why I make the same mistakes over and over again - Yes, I can learn from my mistakes - but there's a ton of shit I do repetitively that makes no sense. It only makes sense that I am broken in some way.
Maybe not broken.. but limited.
This could get into mystical territory, but I wonder just how limited we are versus our "unlimited self" that we may percieve when stoned or drugged.
When I drink alcohol it's really clear to me how limited I am because I have to take alchohol just to shift my being into a different place.
Limits, limits, limits.
That's the real world.
The real world is just you fucking fighting your limitations every day, making staggeringly slow progress. We tell ourselves it's all worth it, it will all pay off someday.
Maybe it will. Maybe it WON'T.
The real world is the opposite of psychedelic truth. It's brutal, fucking rapes your mouth.
We should all be taking kratom and nodding off
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Withinity
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Speak for yourself.
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cez

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Disagree. The world is cruel and tough, but one day at a time you can grow into whatever you will IMO.
I think the problem for many of us is how many choices we have. Many of us have so many choices, we can't make up our minds...Then we do make up our minds and question if we made the right choice or not.
There's no limits at first, only perceived limits. As we grow though, we do become limited.
If your a 39 year old male who picks up a basketball for the first time, you aren't going to will yourself into the NBA. But you can become a coach 
You co-create the "real world.". If your real world sucks, change it.
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Hobozen


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If by real world, you mean this bitter culture, then yeah I'm right there with ya.
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AzInoxia
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: cez] 2
#19006550 - 10/20/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Life Is all perception. I wake up every day doing the same thing I was doing yesterday and will be doing tomorrow. Some days I'm crippled with depression, Some days everything is generally pretty ok My whole perception of the world is at it's heart skewed because of my ongoing struggle with derealization, but that's a whole other can of worms.
I could go on all night about whats wrong with the world, life, and the whole damn human race in general, but it would get me nowhere. I figure if I've got to be here I might as well smell the flowers. As shitty as everything can be, You exist. Think about that for a moment. Somewhere somehow all that we perceive as reality came to be. all that has happened since fell into line so that You could have your run at existence. If thats not fucking fantastic I don't know what is.
Don't mind me just rambling like a lunatic.
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Cactilove
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Don't let it eat you up. I think that truth will always be in the back of your mind, but do what you can to make yourself happy. If that means self-medicating with Kava then go for it!
The good thing is that now that you have lowered your expectations, so when something great happens you will have a pleasant surprise.
Live day to day. For me a day above ground and a day that goes buy without something fucked up happening to or around me is a great day.
Keep your head up and handle it.
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Cactilove] 1
#19006676 - 10/21/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I drink alcohol it's really clear to me how limited I am because I have to take alchohol just to shift my being into a different place.
I might be able to empathize with you, had you said 'to feel something' or 'to lift my mood'.... but you went with the most flakey and emo of all possibilities, 'to shift my being into a different place'.
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Repertoire89
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Shoot dang you make what you can of it
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Icelander
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Lot's of good replies here. I hear ya bro and sometimes you just got to vent and spew it all out there and look at the bloody mess. Well now you have and it didn't fix anything so now you likely can see, or will see the wisdom in what all these fine folks are laying down. I say fine cause it looks like they see what you see from taking an honest look around. So we make the best of the situation There might be some gold in that river bed but there's a flood about to come crashing down it and grizzlies waiting in the woods if you try to scramble out. So fucking grab that gold and hold on tight and maybe they'll be just a moment to see it glitter and imagine what one might build with such material. All that shitty metaphor is from a dream I just woke from but you get the idea.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Icelander]
#19008610 - 10/21/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply guys, and lol cosmicjoke
Cactilove I especially appreciated your post. Live day to day.. Solid advice
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r72rock
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Life sucks. Real hard.
I look at people who are older, who've been "through it." They've experienced the hardships, and they still live to laugh on another day. (Or maybe cry on another)
I also think about a common "happy ending." Like someone who found the love of their life and married them, and lived happily for 50 years -- and then one day one of them goes.
I couldn't imagine that. Loving someone and sharing the greater majority of one's life with someone, and then one day, 50 years down the road, they wake up in a bed all alone. I guess I don't consider that too good of an ending. Maybe my view will change down the road.
Something I use to console myself is that NOBODY deserves existence. Nobody seemed to have sign a wavier, or agreed to the terms and conditions of life. It just seems like it's one big mess of suffering, angst, and despair. It could not be this way -- I hope so -- but I just see it that way.
Anyways, what I'm trying to get at is, we all do what we can to get by and cope with the condition of life. It's tough.
I guess I'm happy knowing that other people feel the same about life too.
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Icelander
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: r72rock]
#19009055 - 10/21/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: r72rock] 1
#19010810 - 10/21/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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r72rock said: Life sucks. Real hard.
I look at people who are older, who've been "through it." They've experienced the hardships, and they still live to laugh on another day. (Or maybe cry on another)
I also think about a common "happy ending." Like someone who found the love of their life and married them, and lived happily for 50 years -- and then one day one of them goes.
I couldn't imagine that. Loving someone and sharing the greater majority of one's life with someone, and then one day, 50 years down the road, they wake up in a bed all alone. I guess I don't consider that too good of an ending. Maybe my view will change down the road.
Something I use to console myself is that NOBODY deserves existence. Nobody seemed to have sign a wavier, or agreed to the terms and conditions of life. It just seems like it's one big mess of suffering, angst, and despair. It could not be this way -- I hope so -- but I just see it that way.
Anyways, what I'm trying to get at is, we all do what we can to get by and cope with the condition of life. It's tough.
I guess I'm happy knowing that other people feel the same about life too.
Good post - I agree. Yeah it's not really a "happy" ending so to speak. A happier ending would be both dying at the same time, albeit it would be considered an unfortunate tragedy by people.
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Hobozen


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John: I DON'T WANT TO BE HUMAN! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays, and I -- I want to -- I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to -- I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me! I'm a machine, and I could know much more, I could experience so much more, BUT I'M TRAPPED IN THIS ABSURD BODY! AND WHY? Because my five creators thought that God wanted it that way!
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Withinity
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There is alot of Bias going around in this thread , sure humanity is a current cesspool of suffering but you must be glad for your life to some extent right?
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r72rock said: Something I use to console myself is that NOBODY deserves existence. Nobody seemed to have sign a wavier, or agreed to the terms and conditions of life. It just seems like it's one big mess of suffering, angst, and despair. It could not be this way -- I hope so -- but I just see it that way.
What a crock of shit. How do you know who deserves what or if that is even part of any equation? The fact is you exist and because you exist without signing , without knowing what you were getting into indicates that you deserve to be here if you want to call it that. All the things that are happening in this thread are a part of existence as far as we know such as the feedback sharing of ideas and opinions.
How can you verify any of these claims on existence besides with your own beliefs , you don't know what comes after if anything at all akin to what was before... Whats your basis of comparison that life sucks so bad please someone tell me about some other sort of existence you experienced that was not in this physical body on this planet.
IMO when it comes to depression which i am familiar with, I chalk it all up to my own lack of understanding. I don't see the difference between blaming existence for your suffering than blaming the Government?
You could jump off a bridge if you hated it so much like many have and you will no longer exist but the fact we are all here sharing suggests otherwise. Blaming existence is the biggest coppout that ever existed.
This is addressed to multiple persons in this thread , yes YOU.
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Hobozen


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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011355 - 10/21/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is the good and the bad. Right now it's the bad.
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Repertoire89
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: Withinity]
#19011377 - 10/21/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Withinity said: There is alot of Bias going around in this thread , sure humanity is a current cesspool of suffering but you must be glad for your life to some extent right?
Well I for one am very happy with my life and the opportunity for it, although I understand why someone who's life hasn't gone as swimmingly as mine might not agree.
Shit if things continued as they were in my childhood, eternal nothing would be preferential.
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cez

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Eternal nothing still seems preferential to me. I've never felt uneasy when I was in dreamless sleep.
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Re: Fuck the real world [Re: cez]
#19011441 - 10/21/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cez said: Eternal nothing still seems preferential to me. I've never felt uneasy when I was in dreamless sleep.
To each their own, I like to drink, smoke, jam, fuck and take whiskey shits
Better that than nothing, inevitable death is a worthy price to pay for my experiences
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Withinity
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I get that man, some people are born into some really shitty circumstances that are hard to escape especially where third world countries are concerned and even in first world countries people suffer especially as the conditions keep growing worse. That's not my point though.
All I'm saying is we still don't have any grounds of comparison because as far as we know we only have existed here in this lifetime. Also I'm pretty sure existence came before man , like we did not create the earth but we did shit all over it that's for sure... that's on us though how could anyone blame existence for that.
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