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Offlinebloodsheen
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    #18988658 - 10/16/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So this ridiculous good looking girl started working at my place of employment. I tried to come up with some clever and cute way of talking to her but I think I half-failed as I was not aware she was not from the US.

She is from Brazil and recently came to this country so she could teach biology. Well, lets just say where I work is far from biologist's work. Turns out her degree doesn't just transfer over, she has to take tests and such to prove her degree isn't total bullshit. Of course, the hardest part for her is that her first language isn't English so she's basically gotta re-learn everything in another language.

Anyway, that background is only necessary because I have a degree in chemistry, and I'm thinking that might be my way in. Does anyone have experience dating foreign people? I was so blown away by all the information she gave me I didn't really have time to process it right away to make appropriate responses.

Does moving to a foreign country make dating too stressful, at least at first? Should I try for a "Hey, I'm smart and also know English well, I could help you out" type of approach? Or is that like creepy and kind of trickster-y? I've also been considering the foe-bargain approach. "Hey, I love to learn about other countries, how about I help with your English and such and you teach me about Brazil"

Incidentally, her English is actually fantastic and she sounds like she's lived in this country for years. However, she seems (and for serious I am gleaning all this information from a two minute conversation) to be very self-conscious about it.

My huge advantage in this situation (other than my degree) is that I'm literally the only single guy in her appropriate age range where I work. However, for Christ's sake she could be married, I have no idea. Planning my next attack is always fun for me though :cool:


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #18988670 - 10/16/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just talk to her, dude. Maybe ask to show her a good time around town. If she's new to the area she should appreciate the gesture.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: fiddle]
    #18999906 - 10/19/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you know which city in Brasil she's from?  I've been traveling around in Brasil and noticed girls from different regions are quite different, but dude... go for it!  Brasilian girls are hot blooded.  :grin:


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: incubis]
    #19005969 - 10/20/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, I know Brazil is a big place. I was thinking of learning how to say "You are the most beautiful woman I've ever met" in Portuguese. I feel like that would work on any foreigner.

Wait, all of Brazil has that as their native tongue, no?


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen]
    #19006112 - 10/20/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Most of Brazil.  I think certain areas speak Spanish.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19006214 - 10/20/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19006625 - 10/21/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well imagine a really hot medium dark skinned girl. Now imagine her with her hair in a bun, in a hairnet, and wearing a smock. Trust me, pictures would not do justice.

Also, as a side not, I have to admit that I felt like a good person because of her. First moment I met her I was like "Holy shit, hot new girl" but I just stayed away because I thought she looked so young. Then I found out shes actually older than me and I was like "Oh shit its on!"

Idk, makes me feel like my future chances of being the creepy old dude are lower :lol:


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen]
    #19007471 - 10/21/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In Brasil most people speak Portuguese except some regions in Amazon, but I doubt your girl came from the tribes.  Parts of south Brasil speaks more of Spanish, but if you speak Spanish to them, most of them would understand.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: incubis]
    #19007540 - 10/21/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you are overthinking everything.
Talk to her a couple of times, learn a few things about her, what kind of music she likes or were she like to hang out and then try to find an activity that she would find enjoyable.

Usually the best is something like:
X band/DJ/musician/movie/event/party/concert is on this weekend, I'm going with my friends would you like to join us, maybe you can bring a friend too?

That way she is not intimidated since it's not just the 2 of you, so it's not an actual date. In fact you must also have it in the back of your head that you might not like her (has happened a few times to me).

All this stuff like: I want to learn about Brazil or I can help you with English, you help me with Portuguese... is rubbish. Just go have fun.

And before you ask: I've studied,worked and travelled in different countries and I've met a lot of people from different cultures, so I know what works and what doesn't.
Especially, don't patronize her, speak very little about how great footballers the brazilians are or about the carnival and the rainforest, she probably has heard that before many times, you can mention it but don't go too much into it.

but above all, keep it simple and have fun.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: trunksan]
    #19010866 - 10/21/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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trunksan said:
I think you are overthinking everything.
Talk to her a couple of times, learn a few things about her, what kind of music she likes or were she like to hang out and then try to find an activity that she would find enjoyable.

Usually the best is something like:
X band/DJ/musician/movie/event/party/concert is on this weekend, I'm going with my friends would you like to join us, maybe you can bring a friend too?

That way she is not intimidated since it's not just the 2 of you, so it's not an actual date. In fact you must also have it in the back of your head that you might not like her (has happened a few times to me).

All this stuff like: I want to learn about Brazil or I can help you with English, you help me with Portuguese... is rubbish. Just go have fun.

And before you ask: I've studied,worked and travelled in different countries and I've met a lot of people from different cultures, so I know what works and what doesn't.
Especially, don't patronize her, speak very little about how great footballers the brazilians are or about the carnival and the rainforest, she probably has heard that before many times, you can mention it but don't go too much into it.

but above all, keep it simple and have fun.



Wait, so treat her like a regular American girl?

Pft, sounds dumb...:tongue2:


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen]
    #19012556 - 10/22/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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bloodsheen said:
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trunksan said:
I think you are overthinking everything.
Talk to her a couple of times, learn a few things about her, what kind of music she likes or were she like to hang out and then try to find an activity that she would find enjoyable.

Usually the best is something like:
X band/DJ/musician/movie/event/party/concert is on this weekend, I'm going with my friends would you like to join us, maybe you can bring a friend too?

That way she is not intimidated since it's not just the 2 of you, so it's not an actual date. In fact you must also have it in the back of your head that you might not like her (has happened a few times to me).

All this stuff like: I want to learn about Brazil or I can help you with English, you help me with Portuguese... is rubbish. Just go have fun.

And before you ask: I've studied,worked and travelled in different countries and I've met a lot of people from different cultures, so I know what works and what doesn't.
Especially, don't patronize her, speak very little about how great footballers the brazilians are or about the carnival and the rainforest, she probably has heard that before many times, you can mention it but don't go too much into it.

but above all, keep it simple and have fun.



Wait, so treat her like a regular American girl?

Pft, sounds dumb...:tongue2:




Not a dumb advice cara!!!  It's way better than learn how to say "You are the most beautiful woman I've ever met" in Portuguese.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: incubis]
    #19016266 - 10/22/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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incubis said:
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bloodsheen said:
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trunksan said:
I think you are overthinking everything.
Talk to her a couple of times, learn a few things about her, what kind of music she likes or were she like to hang out and then try to find an activity that she would find enjoyable.

Usually the best is something like:
X band/DJ/musician/movie/event/party/concert is on this weekend, I'm going with my friends would you like to join us, maybe you can bring a friend too?

That way she is not intimidated since it's not just the 2 of you, so it's not an actual date. In fact you must also have it in the back of your head that you might not like her (has happened a few times to me).

All this stuff like: I want to learn about Brazil or I can help you with English, you help me with Portuguese... is rubbish. Just go have fun.

And before you ask: I've studied,worked and travelled in different countries and I've met a lot of people from different cultures, so I know what works and what doesn't.
Especially, don't patronize her, speak very little about how great footballers the brazilians are or about the carnival and the rainforest, she probably has heard that before many times, you can mention it but don't go too much into it.

but above all, keep it simple and have fun.



Wait, so treat her like a regular American girl?

Pft, sounds dumb...:tongue2:




Not a dumb advice cara!!!  It's way better than learn how to say "You are the most beautiful woman I've ever met" in Portuguese.



Maybe if somebody learned you how to speak english good it wood sound like great idea


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen]
    #19044373 - 10/28/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Trunks has a very good point.  I think you should treat her like an American woman.  Talk to her in English so she feels more confident in her English skills.  I find that with foreign women (granted that where I live I deal mostly with women from Japan/China/Philippines) they feel more comfortable when they fit in better. 

Perhaps you see her as exotic, or some foreign chick. She probably sees it as she is an outsider or doesn't belong.  I see this as a big adjustment.  If you have ever gone to school in another country, you will know exactly what I am talking about.  When I was in Japan, all I wanted to do everything I didn't do in the States.

Confidence when talking with her usually helps to.

So in short, just talk to her normally, invite her out to do shit that you would normally do, and don't feel weird around her just because she isn't what you normally see.  Good luck!


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: Cheezymold]
    #19048343 - 10/28/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, even if she's married or a lesbian you should probably still make friends with her. Brazil has perfectly legal Ayahuasca, awesome looking women, capoeira, plenty of awesome stuff to check out. Befriend a local, you never know where this leads.

And just ask about Brazil, compare cultures etc. She'll feel more comfortable talking about things she knows about, making it a back and forth kind of exchange.


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: Cheezymold]
    #19049118 - 10/28/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Trunks has a very good point.  I think you should treat her like an American woman.  Talk to her in English so she feels more confident in her English skills.  I find that with foreign women (granted that where I live I deal mostly with women from Japan/China/Philippines) they feel more comfortable when they fit in better. 

Perhaps you see her as exotic, or some foreign chick. She probably sees it as she is an outsider or doesn't belong.  I see this as a big adjustment.  If you have ever gone to school in another country, you will know exactly what I am talking about.  When I was in Japan, all I wanted to do everything I didn't do in the States.

Confidence when talking with her usually helps to.

So in short, just talk to her normally, invite her out to do shit that you would normally do, and don't feel weird around her just because she isn't what you normally see.  Good luck!



Her shyness makes it really hard to make an opening. One of the first times in my life I kinda wish I was like mad pimpin. Regular, average girls are really easy to talk to for me. But this girl is like made of stone. She will laugh if you joke with her, but a real conversation is hard to start. I mean, at work its kinda creepy to like leave your job area and just start talkin at someone, it comes off as pretty obviously flirting (which isn't necessarily a bad thing I guess)

Idk, I seem to be really good with girls I have no interest in. I'm sure theres some psychology there  :freud:


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Re: Foreign Girls [Re: bloodsheen]
    #19049832 - 10/29/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Idk, I seem to be really good with girls I have no interest in. I'm sure theres some psychology there  :freud:



Everybody is good with girls they have no interest in. I for one like high school girls for instance, the younger the better. I fumble and choke on my tongue like a little bitch.
20- and 30- somethings roll super smooth, no problem, but of course then I get bored easily. Too old :pedobear:

It's all how you represent it in your head. What you like a lot is also perceived as a lot more rare than it really is, and so it makes you way more tense, in case you should fuck it up. What you're more indifferent about is perceived as common. You fuck it up with this girl you don't like that much, there's a million more around the corner, nobody cares.

In any case she probably knows the whole score by now, two minutes is plenty of time for a guy to give himself all away by the "I like you but I don't know what to do" conflicting body language and tone of voice. Especially if she's smokin' hot she's probably seen it a million times before, now it's just "oh boy another one" :rolleyes:


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