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    #18998562 - 10/19/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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what's up shroomry? I quit allmost all drugs a couple of weeks ago. Even nicotine and weed :rocket:. Because they were holding me back in life. I didn't do jack shit anymore just computer and smoking with my druggie friends. But now when friday is there I drink myself to death (not literally  cause I can still write this post obviously). Sometimes two days in a row. Do you think I am at risk for developing a serious drinking problem. How do you schedule your drinking behavior, and how can I limit addiction. (I write this because I want to be ahead of the addiction) It sucks when you can't ever drink anymore because you went wild in your younger years. Oh yeah and I'm only 18


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Re: Alcohol [Re: spacer]
    #18998566 - 10/19/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It seems like it was not the weed or nicotine itself you were addicted to then...

I've had the same thing.

I quit smoking weed, started drinking heavily.
Stopped drinking, started popping more pills.

Eventually I quit absolutely everything, including psychedelics, for over 4 years.

After that, I started to drink wine occaisionally at the dinner table with my new girlfriend. Slowly but gradually the use of every other substance came back.

Figure out what is causing this. You are self medicating. What are you medicating?

When I figured this out for myself, I could instantly deal with it in the right way.

Good luck.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: spacer]
    #18998567 - 10/19/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

replace it with getting high on weed. ALcohol is unhealthy as fuck. I have started getting pain in my stomach.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18998582 - 10/19/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Replacing is the problem, not the alcohol, nor the weed.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18998629 - 10/19/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Weed isn't good for me. When I start to smoke again I'll defenitly do it every day and be lazy as fuck again. I'm happier without it. I do meditate evry morning, have taken up running. And I generally feel fucking happy lately. The problem is I tend to get a little awkward in social situations sometimes. Mostly when I'm around girls and when I drink a little it fades away. Problem is when I drink a little I can't quit and stay all night and binge until I brown/black out. The problem with this is I don't learn to get social without the booze. I have created a nice social circle this way and all my friends drink on the weekends.. I also think evrybody would find me a bore if I went to the bar and drank water all night :laugh:

Thanks already for the replies.


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    #18998676 - 10/19/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I also think evrybody would find me a bore if I went to the bar and drank water all night :laugh:




I find most bars and its people quite a bore if I drink water all night :laugh: Especially if they think I am a bore for drinking water. It's plain stupidity.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19001507 - 10/19/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It seems like it was not the weed or nicotine itself you were addicted to then...

I've had the same thing.

I quit smoking weed, started drinking heavily.
Stopped drinking, started popping more pills.

Eventually I quit absolutely everything, including psychedelics, for over 4 years.

After that, I started to drink wine occaisionally at the dinner table with my new girlfriend. Slowly but gradually the use of every other substance came back.

Figure out what is causing this. You are self medicating. What are you medicating?

When I figured this out for myself, I could instantly deal with it in the right way.

Good luck.




How did u figure this out? Would u mind being more specific about ur situation?  I do this same thing.  I stopped doing drugs and drank like crazy for years. Stopped drinking and have started taking pain pills more.  I am aware it happening but not sure what to do about it.  And in what way do u mean u can deal with it in a healthy way?


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    #19002538 - 10/20/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure, I'll elaborate. It might be long.

I realised it was a control thing.

Taking something was a way to control my emotions. I finally realised this when smoking came into the equation. I only started smoking when I was 24. All else I had succesfully abandoned but then I picked up the one habit I have always despised: smoking. I realised someting was seriously wrong.

People often asked me wether I enjoyed smoking. I didn't. Every single cigarette was a moral struggle, twisting my mind in strange ways in order to justify the act. I disappointed myself everytime I lit one. It was kind of like self loathing. At the same time I was trying to figure out at which times I would crave a cigarette. That's when I realised what was happening.

By lighting a cigarette I would reliably feel two things: a release of stress and self loathing. It was always the exact same reaction.
I chose to light one, whenever an uncomfortable emotion surfaced. I didn't want to feel sad/restless/angry/jealous/lonely (whatever) so I took control and replaced it with the self loathing of smoking. Hey, at least I was in control right? At least I knew where this loathing came from. At least I didn't have to deal with the other shit...

So, the way to solve this was:

1. becoming more aware of my emotions (meditation)
2. realising negative emotions need to flow in order to be resolved, they are often not all that bad and when you accept them they seem to be released rather quickly
3. Reprogramming the craving feeling to a queue for taking the time to really feel what's going on in your body (short meditation taking the attention out of your head and into your gut where those feelings are)
4. Result: I'm very strictly only taking drugs/alcohol/tobacco in extreme moderation and never when I'm feeling uncomfortable. Of course I sometimes fail at doing so, but I realise it straight away. I'm getting better and better through increased awareness.

Good luck! Your reasons for self medicating might be different although this does seem to be a common one!

Don't be too hard on yourself either, like I said, I do still mess up but I see it as a learning opportunity instead of beating myself up over it. I came a long way already after all...


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Re: Alcohol [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19005616 - 10/20/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Umm, get a few hippie friends and shroom and finger paint instead? It's beautiful :biggrin:



Your liver will be like holy shit! No more booze! Weeee :nyan:


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Spacerific]
    #19008355 - 10/21/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol spacerific, that's what I used to do. I was a drug elitist hating on alcohol xD. Now it's the only thing I still do(I still want to try DMT & mesc once each). But tripping that often on shrooms, RC's, and blotters made my mind go WHAAAAATTHHHHHEEEEEFUUUUUCKKK. Got more anxiety, mild hppd, crazyy thoughts and more paranoia. That could've also been because of the smoking pot almost daily I dunno. But generally psychedelics seperate body and mind. And I want to get them united. I just wanna try DMT and mesc once because I want to experience EVERYTHING. Even though I got other priorities right now. GoldenEye thx for the helpfull responses!!


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Re: Alcohol [Re: spacer]
    #19010144 - 10/21/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you can consider yourself becoming more strongly addicted the more frequently you drink. Try to keep it to once a week and you shouldn't have any problems. When you find yourself wanting to drink again, you know that addiction is trying to creep up on you. You need the cage the beast!

Once a week. Good diet when you're not drinking too.


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    #19010360 - 10/21/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol spacerific, that's what I used to do. I was a drug elitist hating on alcohol xD. Now it's the only thing I still do(I still want to try DMT & mesc once each). But tripping that often on shrooms, RC's, and blotters made my mind go WHAAAAATTHHHHHEEEEEFUUUUUCKKK. Got more anxiety, mild hppd, crazyy thoughts and more paranoia. That could've also been because of the smoking pot almost daily I dunno. But generally psychedelics seperate body and mind. And I want to get them united. I just wanna try DMT and mesc once because I want to experience EVERYTHING. Even though I got other priorities right now. GoldenEye thx for the helpfull responses!!



Doesn't sound like you were much of an elitist if you put RC's into your system now does it? :lol:

I don't know how you used to take psychedelics, but I've not really found them to separate body and mind, on the contrary.

Did you try dancing and singing with others on them for a long time? Did you try taking them with naked girls? Really brings you back into your skin :heart::tripping::tripping::heart:


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Spacerific]
    #19041332 - 10/27/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Okay maybe I was just a hypocrite :laugh:. In my defense though the only RC's I took were 4-aco-dmt, 2c-e and 2c-b


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    #19041931 - 10/27/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, that's not so bad, I was imagining NBOME type crap.


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    #19056577 - 10/30/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Replace that muthafuckin shits with yoga yo. You'll feel good.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Yogi1]
    #19068499 - 11/01/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Alcohol [Re: spacer]
    #19068650 - 11/01/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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