Home | Community | Message Board

NorthSpore.com BOOMR Bag!
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery
Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Help Identifying Mushrooms
    #19005586 - 10/20/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



I am thinking that the yellowish one may be a young ps. cube, and maybe the smaller ones are liberty caps. If so I found about 50 Liberty Caps (the most common where I was in number), and two Ps. Cubes. I just need verification so I know what I'm finding. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to even look.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 10 hours, 6 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19005604 - 10/20/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pic 2 is Panaeolus papilionaceus.  The others are too blurry to id.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGanzig
It's for the street cred
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 8,206
Loc: Oregon Flag
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19005609 - 10/20/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pictures like this,



are difficult to ID. As you can see the background is in perfect focus and
the mushroom is blurry.

Use the :macrofunction: on your camera. A clear picture from further away
is better than a blurry one.

That being said. The second bunch looks like it could be a mildly active
Panaeolus. Perhaps P. cinctulus.


What Alan said.


--------------------
I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


Edited by Ganzig (10/20/13 07:55 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 10 hours, 6 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Ganzig]
    #19005617 - 10/20/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wrong cap shape for Panaeolus cinctulus.  These are more mycenoid.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGanzig
It's for the street cred
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 8,206
Loc: Oregon Flag
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005618 - 10/20/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Wrong cap shape for Panaeolus cinctulus.  These are more mycenoid.




Indeed.


--------------------
I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLhun
Fungal Fixation
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 2,106
Loc: Other side of your screen...
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19005645 - 10/20/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's really hard to tell anything with the blurry pictures but I can safely say that I'm sure neither of those are what you think they are.

Are your suspected cubes growing from wood in a cluster?  It's really hard to tell with your photo.  They should be growing from manure.

Your suspected semilanceata look like a random Panaeolus.  But once again its hard to tell because they appear to be in big rotting pile.

Edit:  What Alan said above for sure.

Please take clear pictures of them both if you want a better identification.  Also spore print them for extra measure.

For the record, I'm not sure there is anywhere in the world where cubes and libs grow together.  They both inhabit opposite climates.  Does anyone else know of a place where both are found?


Edited by Lhun (10/20/13 08:01 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 10 hours, 6 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19005650 - 10/20/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lhun said:
For the record, I'm not sure there is anywhere in the world where cubes and libs grow together.  They both inhabit opposite climates.  Does anyone else know of a place where both are found?





Australia.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGanzig
It's for the street cred
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 8,206
Loc: Oregon Flag
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19005655 - 10/20/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lhun said:
It's really hard to tell anything with the blurry pictures but I can safely say that I'm sure neither of those are what you think they are.

Are your suspected cubes growing from wood in a cluster?  It's really hard to tell with your photo.  They should be growing from manure.

Your suspected semilanceata look like a random Panaeolus.  But once again its hard to tell because they appear to be in big rotting pile.

Please take clear pictures of them both if you want a better identification.  Also spore print them for extra measure.

For the record, I'm not sure there is anywhere in the world where cubes and libs grow together.  They both inhabit opposite climates.  Does anyone else know of a place where both are found?




In the Pacific North West P. semilanceata is found in grassy fields which have
cattle grazing.

And P. cubensis grow in peoples closets. So there ya go. They both grow here.






:trollhide:


--------------------
I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLhun
Fungal Fixation
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 2,106
Loc: Other side of your screen...
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005659 - 10/20/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:

Australia.




Neato, thanks Alan.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJoie
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 7,301
Loc: UK Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19005688 - 10/20/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Virginia. India. But I doubt populations really overlap in any of these places. Australia and India are pretty vast, it's a bit like saying America.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejet li
The One
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/09/07
Posts: 4,279
Loc: penis double yew
Last seen: 2 months, 12 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Joie]
    #19005691 - 10/20/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

America


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTas75
Taswegian
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/12/12
Posts: 1,418
Loc: Tasmania
Last seen: 2 months, 23 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19005693 - 10/20/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alan,

Where is Australia Psilocybe cubensis and P. semilanceata grow together? I ask because from what I thought I knew, they grow thousands of kms apart, one in Tasmania and the others in northern NSW-Qld...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecanid
irregular meat sprocket
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 11,912
Loc: looking for zeebras, n. c...
Last seen: 20 days, 23 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005704 - 10/20/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

Lhun said:
For the record, I'm not sure there is anywhere in the world where cubes and libs grow together.  They both inhabit opposite climates.  Does anyone else know of a place where both are found?





Australia.




In the same locality? If so; Awesome.


--------------------



Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLhun
Fungal Fixation
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 2,106
Loc: Other side of your screen...
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: canid]
    #19005710 - 10/20/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I mean same locale.  Same country is cheating.  Lets try same county.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecanid
irregular meat sprocket
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 11,912
Loc: looking for zeebras, n. c...
Last seen: 20 days, 23 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19005719 - 10/20/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do we discount outdoor cultivation; because I've seen pictures in years past of ourdoor culture of cubensis within close proximity to semi fields.

Is that also cheating?


--------------------



Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForresterM
aspiring sociopath
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 9,351
Loc: Northeast USA Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 9 hours
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Ganzig]
    #19005720 - 10/20/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Ganzig said:
As you can see the background is in perfect focus and
the mushroom is blurry.

Use the :macrofunction: on your camera. A clear picture from further away
is better than a blurry one.





Nonsense, I can clearly identify that toilet paper in the first pic.  It's obviously quilted, possibly of the Northern variety?  Although I can't be absolutely sure without an ass-print.

EDIT: wait, no, that might be paper towels.  My bad :facepalm:
Definitely try the macro function.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecanid
irregular meat sprocket
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 11,912
Loc: looking for zeebras, n. c...
Last seen: 20 days, 23 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19005725 - 10/20/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Forrester said:
Quote:

Ganzig said:
As you can see the background is in perfect focus and
the mushroom is blurry.

Use the :macrofunction: on your camera. A clear picture from further away
is better than a blurry one.





Nonsense, I can clearly identify that toilet paper in the first pic.  It's obviously quilted, possibly of the Northern variety?  Although I can't be absolutely sure without an ass-print.




:roflcopter:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejet li
The One
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/09/07
Posts: 4,279
Loc: penis double yew
Last seen: 2 months, 12 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: canid]
    #19005733 - 10/20/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cultivation is cheating.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecanid
irregular meat sprocket
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 11,912
Loc: looking for zeebras, n. c...
Last seen: 20 days, 23 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: jet li]
    #19005742 - 10/20/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fair enough. That's about what they told me at the human cloning research institute as well.


--------------------



Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGanzig
It's for the street cred
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 8,206
Loc: Oregon Flag
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19005927 - 10/20/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Forrester said:
Quote:

Ganzig said:
As you can see the background is in perfect focus and
the mushroom is blurry.

Use the :macrofunction: on your camera. A clear picture from further away
is better than a blurry one.





Nonsense, I can clearly identify that toilet paper in the first pic.  It's obviously quilted, possibly of the Northern variety?  Although I can't be absolutely sure without an ass-print.

EDIT: wait, no, that might be paper towels.  My bad :facepalm:
Definitely try the macro function.




:curbyourenthusiasm:


--------------------
I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 10 hours, 6 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
    #19005964 - 10/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tas75 said:
Alan,

Where is Australia Psilocybe cubensis and P. semilanceata grow together? I ask because from what I thought I knew, they grow thousands of kms apart, one in Tasmania and the others in northern NSW-Qld...





I think someone did say they were surprised to find them together, but I don't remember where it was.  Was a couple years back.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTas75
Taswegian
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/12/12
Posts: 1,418
Loc: Tasmania
Last seen: 2 months, 23 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19006869 - 10/21/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
I think someone did say they were surprised to find them together, but I don't remember where it was.  Was a couple years back.




Hmmm... I'd be seriously surprised. I wonder if there are herbarium records. Anecdotal observations without hard backup are hard to trust.

The reason I say this is that P. semilanceata is only known in Australia, as far as I know, from Tasmania and Victoria. There are most certainly no wild Psilocybe cubensis down here, regardless of what some commonly traded strains are named.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTimmiTM
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 5,303
Loc: Victoria Flag
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
    #19007212 - 10/21/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not aware of any place where both occur in Australia. There is anecdotal evidence that Panaeolus cyanescens occurs in the Vic/NSW high country over summer but I remain to be convinced.

Even if there was overlap between the distribution of both species they would surely occur at opposite times of year.


--------------------
"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination" ~ John Lennon


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLhun
Fungal Fixation
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 2,106
Loc: Other side of your screen...
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: TimmiT]
    #19007571 - 10/21/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys.  That's what I figured regarding distribution.  I had a good laugh at first when the OP assumed he had found both cubensis and semilanceata on the same day.  Then I got to wondering, "What if?"

Meanwhile, onflazious has not even been back to check this post...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery
Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19008964 - 10/21/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks a lot, now I know what not to pick. Your help is much appreciated, I'd rate if I could.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery
Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19009405 - 10/21/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone know if the other mushrooms are psilocybe cubensis? the yellowish colored ones?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGanzig
It's for the street cred
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 8,206
Loc: Oregon Flag
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19009422 - 10/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Where are you and what was it growing from?

It is too blurry to ID properly.


--------------------
I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJoie
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 7,301
Loc: UK Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19009433 - 10/21/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The cluster growing on wood can't be P. cubensis but I don't know if that is the chunky thing in your first shot.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTas75
Taswegian
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/12/12
Posts: 1,418
Loc: Tasmania
Last seen: 2 months, 23 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Ganzig]
    #19009470 - 10/21/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think your chances of finding cubes in Arkansas are best in late summer / early autumn, after good rain. Isn't it getting too cold now? You're right on the edge of where they grow, climate-wise.
And there are no libs in Arkansas, BTW.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
    #19009611 - 10/21/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't mean the mushrooms on the wood, those were strictly for ID. I mean the ones that I'm holding in my hands. Yeah, it is getting pretty cold here now. Thanks for the advice guys. I am new to this, as you can tell.


Edited by onflazious (10/21/13 05:52 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19009797 - 10/21/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I put much better shots on the other post I made. Take a look there if you have the time.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19009811 - 10/21/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTas75
Taswegian
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/12/12
Posts: 1,418
Loc: Tasmania
Last seen: 2 months, 23 days
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19010721 - 10/21/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

onflazious said:
I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.




It's not likely, given that libs are a cold climate mushroom and cubes are tropical. Not impossible, just extremely unlikely.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLhun
Fungal Fixation
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 2,106
Loc: Other side of your screen...
Trusted Identifier
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
    #19010737 - 10/21/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

onflazious said:
I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.





It would be neat for sure!  But like TimmiT said, it would be different times of the year and unlikely to overlap.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineonflazious
Mysterious
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 61
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
    #19010772 - 10/21/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh okay I understand now why they wouldn't grow together. Thanks for the tip! There's a large complexity to mushroom growth, more than I thought at least. Like I said in another post, every bit of advice will go a long way in helping me out!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: magic mushrooms found in nsw, australia Psylosymon 24,323 10 05/16/00 06:51 PM
by surrealthoughts
* Two Psilocybes from Australia Zen Peddler 1,595 6 04/09/02 03:54 AM
by Zen Peddler
* brisbane, australia.. mushrooms
( 1 2 all )
brizvegasguy 11,141 37 03/03/03 05:43 PM
by blaze2
* which deadly posionus mushrooms grow in western WA state? bigj2647 6,234 14 04/25/03 03:19 PM
by Anonymous
* Feilds in south australia Beatnik 10,367 5 06/19/01 08:42 AM
by Zen Peddler
* Aussie mushroom field guide MushyMay 10,089 11 02/22/02 02:29 AM
by Zen Peddler
* how do i tell if wild mushrooms are psycho active, edible... Told 6,174 7 05/14/03 10:26 PM
by Remy
* Mushroom question
( 1 2 all )
livingsublime 5,454 20 01/15/03 07:42 AM
by livingsublime

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
1,780 topic views. 2 members, 17 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.