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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
#19005964 - 10/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tas75 said: Alan,
Where is Australia Psilocybe cubensis and P. semilanceata grow together? I ask because from what I thought I knew, they grow thousands of kms apart, one in Tasmania and the others in northern NSW-Qld...
I think someone did say they were surprised to find them together, but I don't remember where it was. Was a couple years back.
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Tas75
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Alan Rockefeller said: I think someone did say they were surprised to find them together, but I don't remember where it was. Was a couple years back.
Hmmm... I'd be seriously surprised. I wonder if there are herbarium records. Anecdotal observations without hard backup are hard to trust.
The reason I say this is that P. semilanceata is only known in Australia, as far as I know, from Tasmania and Victoria. There are most certainly no wild Psilocybe cubensis down here, regardless of what some commonly traded strains are named.
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
#19007212 - 10/21/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not aware of any place where both occur in Australia. There is anecdotal evidence that Panaeolus cyanescens occurs in the Vic/NSW high country over summer but I remain to be convinced.
Even if there was overlap between the distribution of both species they would surely occur at opposite times of year.
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: TimmiT]
#19007571 - 10/21/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. That's what I figured regarding distribution. I had a good laugh at first when the OP assumed he had found both cubensis and semilanceata on the same day. Then I got to wondering, "What if?"
Meanwhile, onflazious has not even been back to check this post...
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onflazious
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Thanks a lot, now I know what not to pick. Your help is much appreciated, I'd rate if I could.
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onflazious
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19009405 - 10/21/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does anyone know if the other mushrooms are psilocybe cubensis? the yellowish colored ones?
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19009422 - 10/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where are you and what was it growing from?
It is too blurry to ID properly.
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19009433 - 10/21/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The cluster growing on wood can't be P. cubensis but I don't know if that is the chunky thing in your first shot.
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Tas75
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Ganzig]
#19009470 - 10/21/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think your chances of finding cubes in Arkansas are best in late summer / early autumn, after good rain. Isn't it getting too cold now? You're right on the edge of where they grow, climate-wise. And there are no libs in Arkansas, BTW.
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onflazious
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Tas75]
#19009611 - 10/21/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't mean the mushrooms on the wood, those were strictly for ID. I mean the ones that I'm holding in my hands. Yeah, it is getting pretty cold here now. Thanks for the advice guys. I am new to this, as you can tell.
Edited by onflazious (10/21/13 05:52 PM)
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onflazious
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19009797 - 10/21/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I put much better shots on the other post I made. Take a look there if you have the time.
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onflazious
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19009811 - 10/21/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.
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Tas75
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19010721 - 10/21/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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onflazious said: I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.
It's not likely, given that libs are a cold climate mushroom and cubes are tropical. Not impossible, just extremely unlikely.
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: onflazious]
#19010737 - 10/21/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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onflazious said: I'm just wondering, wouldn't it be totally random if PC and Liberty caps were growing together? They may not grow here, but I would think you could find them within the range of each other atleast in some places.
It would be neat for sure! But like TimmiT said, it would be different times of the year and unlikely to overlap.
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onflazious
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Re: Help Identifying Mushrooms [Re: Lhun]
#19010772 - 10/21/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh okay I understand now why they wouldn't grow together. Thanks for the tip! There's a large complexity to mushroom growth, more than I thought at least. Like I said in another post, every bit of advice will go a long way in helping me out!
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