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Help ID-ing some PNW finds.
    #19005543 - 10/20/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys, I found some guys I think are psilibs, but I don't have an ID on them.  They were found on the central oregon coast.  I've never found any before and I'm new to mushroom hunting in general, but I took a lot of pictures so maybe they can make up my shortcomings.

Habitat:found in sandy soil right next to the beach.  they were growing among the grasses and brambles that were running along side of the beach, amongst leaf litter, decaying driftwood and logs some came right out of the soil.

Gills:
brown to cream colored , gills are either adnate or possibly adnexed. blue-green bruising easily. 

Stem:
2-3 inches long, no more than 3-4mm thick, pale yellow to white, tough fibrous, did not just snap, solid (i think, it's too hard to tell now).  bruised very easily and quickly

Cap:
The widest cap was 1.5-2 inches, most were smaller, an inch. tan/creamy colored but lighter colored than the gills. smooth, slightly lubricated feeling when wet rim of caps easily bruised blue green

Spore print color:
purple

Bruising:
blue/blue-green

Other:
a few had a ring, but most did not. all bruised blueish

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http://imgur.com/a/8nsVm












I also found a couple other interesting ones I was hoping you could tell me about.

These two were found in a pine forest around a lot of trees and old stumps, they were just growing in the leaf litter.  They have this purple covering that almost encapsulated them entirely, it almost looked like a mold growing on them, but they don't look decomposed at all.





And these were amongst the roots of an old rotting pine stump, their caps are slimy and the stems all bruised a purplish color.






thanks for any help.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: long]
    #19005564 - 10/20/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1.  Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa perhaps?
2 and 3.  Cortinarius species.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: long]
    #19005583 - 10/20/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your Psilocybes might be P. azurescens due to the long stipes, heavy bluing and umbonate caps which are not too wavy.  P. allenii and P. cyanescens are also possible.

You have two species of Cortinarius also.  One might be sort of close to C. glaucopus and the slimy one is Cortinarius vanduzerensis.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005674 - 10/20/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Would call the first bunch cyans

As noted by the experts... Some corts.... Seen lots of purple corts this year


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: HarryL]
    #19005678 - 10/20/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, don't confuse blue or purple bruising (i.e. after damage) with the mushroom colour actually being blue or purple for starters.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: Tas75]
    #19005711 - 10/20/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, don't confuse blue or purple bruising (i.e. after damage) with the mushroom colour actually being blue or purple for starters.




:yesnod:

And try not to confuse blue and purple.

And try not to confuse the concept of purple spores and blue bruising, as some people persistently do.

This is pretty much general advice for the whole shroomery, and it's newer membership.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19006141 - 10/20/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Your Psilocybes might be P. azurescens due to the long stipes, heavy bluing and umbonate caps which are not too wavy.  P. allenii and P. cyanescens are also possible.




Thanks for the info.  Do you think there is any chance of a dangerous mis-identification of these?

EDIT: about the psilocybes, not the Cortinarius.


Edited by long (10/20/13 10:03 PM)


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: long]
    #19006166 - 10/20/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't throw the bad ones out, you might leave them mixed with the good ones, and then they will dry and you might more likely get them confused...:confused:


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: jet li]
    #19006180 - 10/20/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Spore-print them all and toss anything that doesn't print dark purple or doesn't bruise blue. From the habitat and general appearance, my money's on P. azurescens.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: jet li]
    #19006187 - 10/20/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And try not to confuse the concept of purple spores and blue bruising, as some people persistently do.




What's the concept of purple spores?


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: jet li]
    #19006202 - 10/20/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Totally; get the corts way away from the Psilocybes.

It's entirely possible the Psilocybes aren't azurescens, but absolutely certain that they are one of the potent psychoactive woodlovers within the genus Psilocybe.

Some have said that specimens like the wavy one I saw must be P. cyanescens and can't be P. azuresecens, but the case is either that they co-mingle in their fruitings far more commonly that one might think, or that P. azurescens occasionally produce a mushroom with the general form of P. cyanescens. I haven't done the work to tell which case is the truth, and both could be.

You can see the whole range of forms between the two, form a stretch of Oregon beach about 100' long in this gallery form '04


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: long]
    #19006203 - 10/20/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

op did you beat up your mushrooms?

they are so fucking bruised up


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: Rafiikii]
    #19006215 - 10/20/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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op did you beat up your mushrooms?

they are so fucking bruised up




they look uncharacteristically sky blue instead of indigo, but have you ever handled P. azurescens? they bruise if you look at them too hard.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: MycoMen]
    #19006223 - 10/20/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Spore-print them all and toss anything that doesn't print dark purple or doesn't bruise blue. From the habitat and general appearance, my money's on P. azurescens.




I didn't keep anything that didn't bruise blue. I spore printed all the ones I thought might be different and they all looked the same, now they are all dried and I doubt I could get anymore prints.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: canid]
    #19006232 - 10/20/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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op did you beat up your mushrooms?

they are so fucking bruised up




they look uncharacteristically sky blue instead of indigo, but have you ever handled P. azurescens? they bruise if you look at them too hard.




no i haven't.  they just happened to be found at a party where I couldn't keep them safe.  they were collateral damage.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: canid]
    #19006257 - 10/20/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Rafiikii said:
op did you beat up your mushrooms?

they are so fucking bruised up




they look uncharacteristically sky blue instead of indigo, but have you ever handled P. azurescens? they bruise if you look at them too hard.




No i have not, however I hope to change that this season


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: canid]
    #19006260 - 10/20/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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canid said:It's entirely possible the Psilocybes aren't azurescens, but absolutely certain that they are one of the potent psychoactive woodlovers within the genus Psilocybe.

Some have said that specimens like the wavy one I saw must be P. cyanescens and can't be P. azuresecens, but the case is either that they co-mingle in their fruitings far more commonly that one might think, or that P. azurescens occasionally produce a mushroom with the general form of P. cyanescens. I haven't done the work to tell which case is the truth, and both could be.

You can see the whole range of forms between the two, form a stretch of Oregon beach about 100' long in this gallery form '04




cool, I thought that was the case.  thanks for clearing that up.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: long]
    #23747953 - 10/18/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

might seem a little crazy but I was curiouse about these slimey mushrooms. Cortinarius vanduzerensis.  So I Gathered a bunch up about 4 weeks ago, dried them out. And. They taste like pistachio's. very yummy actually. will go wonderful on a salad. we ate a bunch of them. I think if i ate enough of them they might produce some kind of a psilocyben affect because they made me yawn and I think I may have been exadurating but I think they made us feel happier. maybe some kind of anti depressant or something>???? Crazy I know. but that was my experience with those Cortinarius vanduzerensis.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: ethedra]
    #23748033 - 10/18/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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might seem a little crazy but I was curiouse about these slimey mushrooms. Cortinarius vanduzerensis.  So I Gathered a bunch up about 4 weeks ago, dried them out. And. They taste like pistachio's. very yummy actually. will go wonderful on a salad. we ate a bunch of them. I think if i ate enough of them they might produce some kind of a psilocyben affect because they made me yawn and I think I may have been exadurating but I think they made us feel happier. maybe some kind of anti depressant or something>???? Crazy I know. but that was my experience with those Cortinarius vanduzerensis.






Like many Cortinarius species, C. vanduzerensis is edible - it might contain odd chemicals but not psilocybin.


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Re: Help ID-ing some PNW finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23773685 - 10/26/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Slimey with the purple fluff is cortinarius vanduzerensis. I enjoy them fresh and dry so far. they taste like pistachios when they are dry and they are actually not as bad as they may feel or look. when you take a nibble of them you'll see.  MMMMMmmMmmmMmMm. they remind me of harnomoni. if it had any kind of psychadellic affect you'd have to eat a whole lot of them. and that's maybe at certain times of the year.
another one I enjoyed so far is the bluet and the purple cort. I love those too. just to munch on. I'm sure vanduzerensis have some kind of anti depressant effect to the mind but not altering it's subject. these are all personal opinions to do with as you please.


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