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 Snobrdr311
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 Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod  [Re: TM]
#1900392 - 09/09/03 10:04 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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TripMeister said:
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Snobrdr311 said:
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LiL_KuSsH said:
Ok heres a little argument for u...
U have a 7 lb casing (substrate, casing material, etc.) in one hand. In the other you have 7 pounds of cakes.....
Which one will yeild more?
Just about 99% of anyone who posts on here knows the casings will produce about 40 times more.
You are so fucking wrong, it's sick! Cakes put out just as much as casings if done PROPERLY. Don't believe me? Ask Magash.
Wow, your ignorance is truly unbelievable. You're telling me cakes will yield as much as casings if done properly? Unreal! For one, cakes are grown on a very limited substrate, limited in nutrients and mass, it's mixed more than half with vermiculite, a non nutritious substance.. the more nutrients per area the more mushrooms. Another thing, casings can be done with whole grains like WBS, Rye or Compost.. substances that have many times more nutritional capabilities than PF cakes. The differnce here is night and day, I can't believe you're even arguing this with me. PF cakes are for newbies because they're hard to screw up and are much more mistake prone, they'll grow you a few mushrooms yes, but nowhere near to the amounts that grains or compost or even cased PF cakes will.
Magash is the one I disagree with in the first place, why would I ask him? Why not ask the pro's here, like Anno, 6Tango, Olgualion Joshua, .. hell.. anyone really, everyone knows this except a couple of you newbies here.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900409 - 09/09/03 10:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really dont have anything more important to do then reply to the thread saying i really dont have anything more important to do by replying to this thread saying i really dont have anything more important to do.....
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 TM
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900410 - 09/09/03 10:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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My ignorace? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
You, my friend are the ignorant one. Just by reading your posts, I can tell you have never grown a mushroom in your life!
When I said "PROPERLY" I obviously meant cased cakes, fool.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
#1900419 - 09/09/03 10:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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TripMeister said:
My ignorace? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
You, my friend are the ignorant one. Just by reading your posts, I can tell you have never grown a mushroom in your life!
When I said "PROPERLY" I obviously meant cased cakes, fool.
I just offered you the logic behind it, and explained why. All you can do is tell me i've never grown Shrooms and say i'm the ignorant one. Even if I never have grown a shroom, you'd be very very wrong on this subject. It's astonishing to me to even see you say that.
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Magash
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: hyper_dermic]
#1900428 - 09/09/03 10:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok so i only glanced through this and the previous thread,
but heres my 2 cents... i currently use BOTH a modified pod, and a COOL MIST
you 2 are compareing apples and oranges
the POD is hands down the BEST for smaller scale growing (rubbermaid size) cakes, casings, it dont matter.. it works GREAT! i wish i had a camera to show you my results....
the humidity and air exchange is always perfect.
its easy to build and fairly cheap...
the COOLMIST is the BEST for GREENHOUSE growing... (wallmart or marthastewart etc)
it offers good humidity for LARGE areas, tho in small areas it tends to have a paradoxical effect (in rubbermaids, the moving air tends to dry things out)
my bulk grows all go into the greenhouse and they LOVE it....
my special grows (cyans, oysters, whatever) go into the POD
so there you have it...
the POD and the COOLMIST are both at the TOP of the list as far as terrariums go...
just diffrent classes
if u want to produce on a smaller scale (BRF cakes/casings etc) go with the POD, it produces the BEST results you can get from non-bulk substrates
if you want to produce mulitpul huge fuckin trays of giant mushrooms, then get yourself a greenhouse (realestate becomes an issue when you start using dishpans as casing trays)
I fully agree with this.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900436 - 09/09/03 10:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You see that? You're using "logic". Not real world experience.
Anyone can read the FAQ's and any other source of information and deduce what works best.
Until you actually DO IT, you'll never really know for sure, now will you?
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns
I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss.
TM™
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MOTH
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
#1900442 - 09/09/03 10:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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This topic will be locked again. Which is sad...
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Magash
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
#1900444 - 09/09/03 10:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You see that? You're using "logic". Not real world experience.
Anyone can read the FAQ's and any other source of information and deduce what works best.
Until you actually DO IT, you'll never really know for sure, now will you?
I have to agree with this.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900455 - 09/09/03 10:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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LiL_KuSsH said:
"Just about 99% of anyone who posts on here knows the casings will produce about 40 times more."
DUDE..... Just because a casing is 7 lbs doenst meant theres 7 lbs of substrate. lets just say were talking BRF. The casing WILL NOT Produce more then the cakes... more substrate using cakes = MORE MUSHROOMS! Now when you wonder into straw and such...things change.
NOW....... were wondering off subject...... BACK TO THE COOL MIST VS. PMP!
DUDE!! Take 7 PF cakes, grow them in your pod. Then when you learn how to do a casing the right way, take 7 cakes and case them, that's the same amount of substrate right there.. grow them in your pod as well. 7 cakes cased to 7 cakes growing cake style. The casing will flush at least twice as many fruits.
Read the Mushroom Cultivator and learn what casings do and why they work the way they do. Then maybe you'll get an idea as to what i'm talking about.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Magash]
#1900463 - 09/09/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Magash said:
You see that? You're using "logic". Not real world experience.
Anyone can read the FAQ's and any other source of information and deduce what works best.
Until you actually DO IT, you'll never really know for sure, now will you?
I have to agree with this.
Because I don't have a digital camera you're saying I haven't done it? You have no basis to judge this. I was explaining it in "logic" so maybe they will understand why.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Magash]
#1900477 - 09/09/03 10:26 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Magash said:
ok so i only glanced through this and the previous thread,
but heres my 2 cents... i currently use BOTH a modified pod, and a COOL MIST
you 2 are compareing apples and oranges
the POD is hands down the BEST for smaller scale growing (rubbermaid size) cakes, casings, it dont matter.. it works GREAT! i wish i had a camera to show you my results....
the humidity and air exchange is always perfect.
its easy to build and fairly cheap...
the COOLMIST is the BEST for GREENHOUSE growing... (wallmart or marthastewart etc)
it offers good humidity for LARGE areas, tho in small areas it tends to have a paradoxical effect (in rubbermaids, the moving air tends to dry things out)
my bulk grows all go into the greenhouse and they LOVE it....
my special grows (cyans, oysters, whatever) go into the POD
so there you have it...
the POD and the COOLMIST are both at the TOP of the list as far as terrariums go...
just diffrent classes
if u want to produce on a smaller scale (BRF cakes/casings etc) go with the POD, it produces the BEST results you can get from non-bulk substrates
if you want to produce mulitpul huge fuckin trays of giant mushrooms, then get yourself a greenhouse (realestate becomes an issue when you start using dishpans as casing trays)
I fully agree with this.
I agree with this too, it's basically what I was saying perviously. But what i'm saying is the POD will make no differnce when growing a casing in it as opposed to growing a casing in a cool mist setup. It offers nothing additional that is needed.
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LiL_KuSsH
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Deleted [Re: Magash]
#1900481 - 09/09/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Magash
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900483 - 09/09/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going by the post, I had no idea you didn't have a digital camera.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900496 - 09/09/03 10:33 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It should be locked because you're being proven wrong?
Here's a link to prove what i'm saying, PF cakes cased! There's no way you'd ever get this yield off of straight cakes growing alone uncased.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900498 - 09/09/03 10:33 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Noooo!! no lockage!
the last thread got locked, and it just didnt feel right
i need closure dammit! CLOSURE!!!
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900505 - 09/09/03 10:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Ever hear of something called talking in the 3rd party? I can explain why people do this to you if you'd like. "
I think everyone saw that about the growing. Always talk in 3rd party! Everyone!
Edited by Snobrdr311 (09/09/03 10:45 PM)
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BatFly
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900523 - 09/09/03 10:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Read the Mushroom Cultivator and learn what casings do and why they work the way they do. Then maybe you'll get an idea as to what i'm talking about.
i did and the whole purpose of casing is to make it self hydrated. you should be able to make a casing and stick it in a tub or drawer and it's own microclimate will provide it with the right moisture as long as you lightly mist it. so all your arguing about wether or nto a pmp or a cool mist is better for a casing is irrelevant in that it does not necessarily need additional air conditioning other than light misting. and 95% relative humidity is too high for a casing anyway, ideal for a casing is 90% or less due to it's very own micro climate.
so, you are arguing something that gets decomposed in it's own hypothesis stage. and you went further in the debate why?
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