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The meaning of life - Breaking out of it
    #19003668 - 10/20/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I could be way off, I'm not sure if anyone elses experiences coincide with mine, but a lot of my psychedelic trips these days revolve around me seeing humanity stuck in some kind matrix/live stock pen thing and that the only thing worth doing is breaking out of it. Last time I was on ayahuasca, I was struggling with this, and I was reminded of this epic scene from a movie:

the bit at the end where he says "somebody should put the fish in the river". I get visions that we are kind of like fish, confined to an artificial reality. Its kinda sad that fish have absolutely no way to escape their matrix, even if they got out, they can't survive in the environment outside it (the air). Something deeply wrong around confining a less intelligent entity to an highly limited, artificial environment like that. We can help them though, can't we. Gets me thinking, maybe this is something we should be doing.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #19003717 - 10/20/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Iwe are all animals attempting to deny our nature. We create the reality we live in so yeah I get what you are saying


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: niteman]
    #19003784 - 10/20/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do we create it? If so, then I reckon its all about you believe on a subconcious level. I've seen how this works in lucid dreams, and sleep deprivation psychosis. Maybe we only perceive what is compatible with our belief and logical system. Well, thats not a maybe, thats pretty clear to anyone thats done salvia or DMT but what I mean is maybe in your reality, you can teleport, but since thats not part of my reality, my brain filters out any evidence that conflicts with my reality, so it appears to me that you are limited by space in the same way I am.

In hypnosis there are these things called negative hallucinations, which is where you are hypnotised to be blind to something thats actually there. I want to experiment with this, but I've seen 4 professional hypnotherapists so far, and none of them could hypnotise me at all, so I've given up on that. Well, not entirely, I want to now experiment with taking drugs that will make me more susceptible to hypnosis. Datura is a bit too dangerous for my likings, but I'm thinking maybe NMDA antagonists. Or possible even mushrooms.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #19005245 - 10/20/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Mind co-creates reality. That's as far as I would go. Something is kind of out there, but it doesn't come into being without a mind; "in order to undergo the formality of existing reality must be apprehended by a mind" - McKenna.

Very clear to me these days.

The only real problem we face is brain disease, which I think a lot of shroomerites are familiar with ie. schizophrenia, but this can be contained and possibly healed if you only free your mind from the constraints you have put on it. Our culture wouldn't even dream of us being gods or incarnations of the Divinity, but this is just what we are.

So if you're part of the culture or matrix of modern Western society, your mind will disallow the prospect of ever healing to a significant degree any brain disorder. But if you contain yourself in your own experimental but safe and sound reality, things start to seem far more realistic, things like healing chronic or lifelong diseases in one's own organism.

I think another way to look at it is, you are a profound being, divine even, being part of God, and "you matter, you count" (McKenna), and as such you are eternal, and eternity is not eternity if there are traps, traps into time-based states of body and mind. That is, you can always get out of your predicament, because you are part of something greater, something that matters. The universe is interested in you. So it will allow, if only you will allow, culturally-defined-as-impossible things to occur.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: circastes]
    #19005257 - 10/20/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

; "in order to undergo the formality of existing reality must be apprehended by a mind" - McKenna.

I'm curious as to how McKenna presumed to know this as a fact?


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: circastes] * 1
    #19005270 - 10/20/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is, you can always get out of your predicament, because you are part of something greater, something that matters. The universe is interested in you. So it will allow, if only you will allow, culturally-defined-as-impossible things to occur.


This hardly seems realistic in light of what we perceive as reality.  Many people can't get out of their predicament as they  might define it.  And exactly what impossible things are you referring to?


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: Icelander]
    #19006346 - 10/20/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Something that has always made me think to hard is if everything we see, hear, touch, smell, and taste is reality, how do we know our minds are not tricking us into sensing what we do as a defense mechanism against the unpleasent truth ie the matrix. I like to believe everything on both ends of any given spectrum is possible.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #19006599 - 10/21/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't exactly get what you are trying to explain. What does it mean to break out of this matrix? What is the point?
Are you referring to culture or actually breaking out of the confines of physical reality?


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: Cactilove]
    #19025603 - 10/24/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I mean breaking out of this "life" thing. What the hell are we in? How did we get here? Although its way better and less claustrophobic than the 2D reality I got stuck in a couple of times on salvia, its still pretty confined, why am I confined to 3 dimensions?


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #19025651 - 10/24/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My friend asked the same question three years ago, I remembered he first asked my friend that question, but it was formed in something which seemed to be wrapped in some kind of apparent pretext which I couldn't have previously discerned until he revealed the source of its creation. As if I already asked him it before so he didn't have a need to ask me it, as if I already was waiting for him to ask me that same question but had already talked about it with him a year ago on account of wishing to find out a little earlier.

I know people need to ask alot of questions especially as they are growing up into an age where they aren't nearly as immature as before, because some people are so immature you will wish to abandon them from ever being your friend again on account of being so mean, and you might never wish to ask them a question ever again.

We are in some kind of dimensional vortex which we can't wrap our heads around its complexity. For some dimensions are much more complexed than others, as if some of them are just naturally enhanced compared to certain other ones. I believe the dimensions which we accompany to other dimensions, the ones that connect us to dimensions which we could never have imagined their world. As if some dimensions are off limits to other dimensions from colliding with. For some dimensions might prevent another dimension from revealing the source of its energy. Though certain ones will acknowledge this energy and wish to connect them together, as if you can feel this connection in the dimensions but without revealing your immense joy at discovering it. As if you wish to acknowledge it without actually revealing all the immense joy associated with your discovering it. But without also speaking of the immense feeling towards wishnig to tell others about this dimension.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: niteman]
    #19025890 - 10/24/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you don't create your reality its been here before you lived it does not care if you want to die. you die when it wants you to die.you can alter the natural and take your life but you did not change it you ended your reality. you wanna get out of this "matrix" you cant there is no other reality but this one your in. other then your dream world its the only world.


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Re: The meaning of life - Breaking out of it [Re: Megatrondon]
    #19026330 - 10/24/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It just seems that way, if you change your mind often enough... you find what you are experiencing is exactly what you are thinking, somehow.

Be more creative with your thoughts and see how your overall state is pinpoint with the state of the so called outside world.

I know a lot of people are fucked. But there are a lot of people that should be fucked or think they are, that have a way out. Unprecedented healing processes have come over me for example. I went schizo and also hit my head, both are quickly receding. I don't know how it works, maybe most people just don't believe it's possible?

Just get really cheery, as best you can do it and notice how it changes EVERYTHING that's happening around you.

I've said it before, this may all be imagination. Calling it a dream is fitting but certainly a challenge to common sense, so at least we should say imagination is our role in this life if we want to make it worth something.


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