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Spacerific
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19050298 - 10/29/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For sure, everything in moderation.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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rikuni

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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Spacerific]
#19050324 - 10/29/13 04:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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are there any ceremonies in winter at that daime thing ?
Maybe i check that out sometime
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19050463 - 10/29/13 05:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well are you in the Netherlands or going there soon? I do believe they have 1-2 ceremonies every month, consistently, and there's 2 different churches each with their own schedule. Awesome times at both of them but I prefer the one in The Hague as the group is smaller and they have awesome vaporizer bongs on the church altar, as opposed to joints which I can't smoke at all.
Santodaime.nl for the website and schedules. Press Translate for English version. Oh and yes, you WILL get to smoke weed in the church
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Spacerific]
#19051770 - 10/29/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can go there anytime but it takes some planning. I have to look if that works out this year. Smoking weed in church sounds like the real deal
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19051865 - 10/29/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go man, go go go 
Only took one time for me to get me motivated to go again and again. You'll feel the good effects for months, you'll feel them in subsequent trips on other substances, it can't be overstated how awesome this is if you can go.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Spacerific]
#19051939 - 10/29/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spacerific said: Go man, go go go 
Only took one time for me to get me motivated to go again and again. You'll feel the good effects for months, you'll feel them in subsequent trips on other substances, it can't be overstated how awesome this is if you can go. 
Would give a lot to be able to attend a Santo Daime ceremony
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Spacerific]
#19052485 - 10/29/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No it's not. You walk up to any advertising agency and they'll make the right ads for you.
Ah come on. An ad that will make people stop watching ads forever, and stop buying shit nobody needs forever? Dream on!
OTOH psychedelics will do exactly that - only they are illegal and can't be advertised. But wait - what would be the point? 
possible side effects may include seeing through corporate greed, refusing to sell your life short working for somebody else, a general irreverence for all establishment religions, feelings of awe in nature of no commercial value, working harder to make the world a friendlier place to all its inhabitants, rejection of societal norms, living closer to the land, rejecting unwholesome food, abandoning addictive substances, and just generally being a total tree-hugging pain in the ass of the masses.
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Yet we consider it perfectly acceptable for any corporation to advertise the shit out of their shitty sugar products,
This "we" is not me, but the point is already made so I'm leaving it here.
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if you stand too close to the machine it'll start to eat youPrimal's simple tested teks and projects: Wheat Prep 2.0 Acidic Tea Tek Potency Project!
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19053401 - 10/29/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you watched the Epicurus video?
This is exactly what they did back in those communes. They raised huge permanent ads in the middle of the markets, reminding people AS THEY BUY that happiness doesn't come from material goods, it comes from friends freedom and an analyzed life. All of which are not found by buying more than one needs. So it can be done. The system was stable and worked until they were violently wiped out for religious reasons, as they were a pain in the ass for surrounding cults that had gods to promote.
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Yet we consider it perfectly acceptable for any corporation to advertise the shit out of their shitty sugar products,
This "we" is not me, but the point is already made so I'm leaving it here.
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You're right, I should have said we're allowing it to happen, even though we don't consider it acceptable. We're still not putting an end to it, and it's all slowly creeping further and further inside our food chain. See Monsanto and GM seeds and all that. Any responsible tree hugging that hopes to last should at some point include limiting the poisoning of trees. What a bunch of irresponsible people can and cannot do. Not to themselves, but to everything out here, trees water etc.
So far Monsanto has free reign all over the planet, advertising agencies are free to amplify the message of anyone, for things like aspartame-containing drinks, military recruitment, SSRI's and so on. Our lines in the sand are drawn at specific kinds of organized crime, so pretty low standards.
Communities like Damanhur for instance, they've said NO to big rectangular coke ads in the middle of their community, as they figured out people thrive better in artful settings, not the visual equivalent of spam.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Spacerific]
#19058341 - 10/30/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So there has to be someone who would be doing it like Frank Zappa and further their ideas by buying newspaper pages.
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PrimalSoup
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Yeah, except (strangely enough) Zappa never did drugs. Said he tried cocaine once and couldn't stand weed. That was about it...
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19058801 - 10/30/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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No it's not. You walk up to any advertising agency and they'll make the right ads for you.
Ah come on. An ad that will make people stop watching ads forever, and stop buying shit nobody needs forever? Dream on!
OTOH psychedelics will do exactly that - only they are illegal and can't be advertised. But wait - what would be the point? 
possible side effects may include seeing through corporate greed, refusing to sell your life short working for somebody else, a general irreverence for all establishment religions, feelings of awe in nature of no commercial value, working harder to make the world a friendlier place to all its inhabitants, rejection of societal norms, living closer to the land, rejecting unwholesome food, abandoning addictive substances, and just generally being a total tree-hugging pain in the ass of the masses.
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Yet we consider it perfectly acceptable for any corporation to advertise the shit out of their shitty sugar products,
This "we" is not me, but the point is already made so I'm leaving it here.
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im guessing the best ads have probably been made by psychedelic users which would be ironic but it seems very likely from my experiences.
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Tombc1]
#19059645 - 10/30/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tombc1 said: Hey. Over the past couple of years I have been reborn due to psychedelics - I am a completely different person now and my mind works in a drastically different way to how it used to and how everyone else's around me does. I go to a college which connects to a high school which means masses of brainwashed trend-following idiots - even the teachers are only slightly better. I have begun to feel very alienated from almost everyone except my very close friends, just due to how different we are. Everybody succumbs to petty argument, bullies one another, focuses on physical appearance... everyone around me just seems to be living according to that capitalist programming. I am not sure if it is mushrooms making me realize i'm the only sane one, or mushrooms making me insane without me realizing... please help - has anyone else had this feeling before? 
You are not insane. You are normal. Everyone else is insane. It sucks but the only thing you can do is connect with like minded individuals. And, sometimes it is better to be alone then surrounded by mindless zombies.
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19059699 - 10/30/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
possible side effects may include seeing through corporate greed, refusing to sell your life short working for somebody else, a general irreverence for all establishment religions, feelings of awe in nature of no commercial value, working harder to make the world a friendlier place to all its inhabitants, rejection of societal norms, living closer to the land, rejecting unwholesome food, abandoning addictive substances, and just generally being a total tree-hugging pain in the ass of the masses.
Thanks for that
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