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Tombc1
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Feel alienated from society 1
#19002776 - 10/20/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey. Over the past couple of years I have been reborn due to psychedelics - I am a completely different person now and my mind works in a drastically different way to how it used to and how everyone else's around me does. I go to a college which connects to a high school which means masses of brainwashed trend-following idiots - even the teachers are only slightly better. I have begun to feel very alienated from almost everyone except my very close friends, just due to how different we are. Everybody succumbs to petty argument, bullies one another, focuses on physical appearance... everyone around me just seems to be living according to that capitalist programming. I am not sure if it is mushrooms making me realize i'm the only sane one, or mushrooms making me insane without me realizing... please help - has anyone else had this feeling before?
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rikuni

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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Tombc1]
#19002788 - 10/20/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mainstream is like that. You can hide in there and pretend to be the same, but personally thats the WORST I CAN THINK OF. Or
Build your own "small" society for the win
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Tombc1
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19002801 - 10/20/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its very difficult to do so in such a controlled environment
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Tombc1]
#19002817 - 10/20/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Be yourself, but don't cast your pearls to the pigs. Watch your steps, but don't get paranoid. Try to be safe like they do, but don't necessarily be like them. You know yourself you have to play your own game, but without falling from humanity.
The world is just as bad as good. One parts, the next comes.
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Yes. And don't judge. They are not worse or better than you. They are just different. You can learn from everyone.
The trick is to figure out a way to let yourself be you, even in your inevitable contacts with them.
The other trick is not to judge. Wait a minute, I started with that one. That must mean I'm done.
You'll be fine.
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Libertin
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Mushrooms haven't made you 'insane', you've simply gained an elevated perspective on society. Psychedelics are well known to produce insights of amazing clarity.
My advice:
- Accept your alienation.
- Take a hard line-approach to being a non-conformist. This way, when people see you're different they'll want to know 'what you're about', you'll naturally attract the attention of curious and interesting people, it might not happen often though, interesting people are few and far between. Find the others.
- Try to develop compassion towards sheeple rather than misanthropy.
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sof4r0ckeRs1984



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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: GoldenEye]
#19002837 - 10/20/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, analyse, don't judge. It can't be said often enough. You are not better than them either. But don't let anybody fuck you over, except if you have to in order to avoid greater evil. When you know you live in a society of who-fucks-first there is often no other possibility then to fuck first. Don't mix up sheeples and wolves.
Edited by sof4r0ckeRs1984 (10/20/13 06:45 AM)
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Tombc1
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Thanks for the replies, they have been helpful
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Tombc1]
#19002852 - 10/20/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I know what you're talking about. People seem to be so consumed by modern life that they are so resistant to talk about the mysterious nature of reality and life. Some of them will consciously dismiss these thoughts as stupid or anxiety provoking. Either way, I don't judge others or put myself above them for this. I don't wanna throw down the government and conventional society, I just think it would be cool if we could live modern lives AND be more aware of ourselves and our surrounding reality. My 
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Harrishroom]
#19002863 - 10/20/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, if you are looking not to be trapped by society make sure to avoid as much monetary debt as possible. Learn to be wise with money and you will be able to live far more comfortably on less income than most people.
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GoldenEye
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: blckmynnse8] 1
#19002870 - 10/20/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Viewing money as materialised trust makes the concept of it a bit less evil.
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bishlap
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: GoldenEye]
#19002949 - 10/20/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- "If you're not worried that you took way to much, you didn't take enough" - Terrence McKenna There is no soul, only the ego dies. The body was never yours.
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: GoldenEye]
#19002966 - 10/20/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
GoldenEye said: Viewing money as materialised trust makes the concept of it a bit less evil.
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mandrax360
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: GoldenEye]
#19002977 - 10/20/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a good few year your senior and can tell you that most the people you go to college with you will hardly ever see again when you finish unless you have similar interests . Just be yourself , if people don't like you for who you are then it's there loss . You have a group of close friend so enjoy there company .
You have already took a step in the right direction as you could have just sat at home on the xbox till you're 18 and waited in the dole queue but you are better than that .To all those kids you go to college with that have a image to keep should take a hard look at the world today . Most people live out of there means and try to keep up with the joneses and all that does is creates problems with debt somewhere down the line .
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: mandrax360] 1
#19002989 - 10/20/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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After mushrooms doses, movies and TV shows looked different to me. Felt fake...focused on other things. They forever change your perspective on a manipulated world.
We weren't made to waste our lives making money. We are made to explore, conquer and survive.
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PanGaia
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: TwinEclipse]
#19003045 - 10/20/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is how I felt for like the year after my first trip. As other people said, you have to realize that you are not better than them. This is a very normal phase. I didn't have the knowledge or motivation to change myself at the time, so I stayed in it for awhile.
Just be yourself and find a group of people that love and accept you for who you are. Generally if you look for good people, you find them.
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rikuni

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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Tombc1]
#19003103 - 10/20/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tombc1 said: Its very difficult to do so in such a controlled environment
who said lifes gonna be easy bro. Life is gonna be easy if you keep your eyes and mind shut but not if you dare to question. 
On the other hand maybe you are guest in a looney bin, then your argument is correct
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19003144 - 10/20/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think a lot of people on this forum can relate to you OP. Anyone who feels obligated beyond all measure to understand the truth of existence is, that type of mindset will struggle to connect with mindsets that are oblivious to the world around them and base their lives around materialistic ideology.
But as stated above, it's very important to treat these people with compassion and understanding rather than with disdain and misanthropy, I've been doing the latter for a while all it's done is turned me into a miserable recluse.
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Universe
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: rikuni]
#19003155 - 10/20/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't be down for feeling alienated from the mainstream clique. Those people give an appearance of unity, like they're all on the same page, but they're not. Most of them feel alienated, probably even more than you.. but they feel alienated from each other. People are so good at putting on a happy show, because that's all they have. It's like a raincoat to protect and disguise what's really going on inside. Be happy that psychedelics have given you the ability to see the big picture. Those people can't see past their noses. Meanwhile, all of their energy is put into the meaningless task of trying to determine and effect their standing within their group. I left all that behind when I was 16.
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Tombc1
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Re: Feel alienated from society [Re: Universe]
#19003410 - 10/20/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amazing replies Glad to see that so many people can relate to this feeling. It really saddens me that the world is this way - when I first tripped I felt like I had found some massive secret and it astonished me that mushrooms aren't more widely used: its a testament to how f*cked our society is! :P You guys have certainly influenced my opinions - i guess I have seen now that misanthropy is perhaps the easy option when really the most productive thing I can do is empathize & try to help others in the same way I was helped.
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