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bloodworm
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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Joie]
#19007399 - 10/21/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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after realizing they were obviously cultivated... 
i knew they were most likely cubensis (who the fuck would cultivate H. fasciculare )...
but regardless, i think it is better to err on the side of caution in this case...
in this instance, we had 0 information. just ambiguous photos of dried fungi on a plate and 1 photo of them in a bag...
if he didn't mention vermiculite and the stipe bases weren't so clean... given their condition and photos (in the original post), i would have said Hypholoma all day long. the second batch of photos are better...
just my 12cents...
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Tampee
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Re: What did I eat? [Re: DCart]
#19007438 - 10/21/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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dodeski said: I have tasted H. fascicular in the field fresh, it is very bitter. Lets hope they are just old cubes.
That is true. Were they bitter OP?
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DCart said: Op, are you a heavy person? I only ask because I've noticed that people with a larger body frame seem to take more substance to get to the same level as a smaller person.
Also, those cubes look past their prime picking. I don't think they were grown with much love.
They were not bitter at all, tasted like the smell of forest just like other Psilocybin mushrooms I have eaten. And no, I am actually o really small guy, ate 2g's from another batch/person a couple of weeks ago that had me trippin.
I haven't tossed them yet though...
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Ran-D



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MonkeyJesusFresco said: What the hell guys?! These have to be the most unnerving comments I've read in a thread all year; reading this thread was more intense than the last episode of The Walking Dead 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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DCart
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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Ran-D]
#19007694 - 10/21/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ran-D, I think he was referring to the fact that there was not a quick consensus about the ID of the mushrooms.
They way I see it, you guys are used to IDing fresh mushrooms that are in their habitat, or just picked. Iding a dead or dried mushroom would be a lot like IDing a dead or dried body. Sure, if they are alive, you can look at someone's drivers license and determine if it is them or not. If they have been dead for a few weeks, probably not as easy. I'm still confident in you guys!
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Tangich


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: DCart]
#19007716 - 10/21/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not really like that. Dried cubensis are common, and many of us have grown them as well, the cultivated specimens both fresh and dried look different. I was almost sure it was cultivated P. cubensis all along because I've seen them lots of times, but the complete lack of blue discoloration was casting a shadow of doubt. But you're right, IDing other species dry can be almost impossible. Btw, I completely agree that it's better to dispose of any mushrooms if the ID isn't unanimous, better safe than sorry.
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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oh ha, yeah sorry
too much coffee, I ended up paraphrasing the entire thread in my head like this:
"hey guys I ate some questionable mushrooms that I just found laying around on the web and I'm not tripping but they could be something other than what I thought they were what say ye all??? here's some pictures of dried fungus with little to no remarkable identifying characteristics/traits. possibly poisonous species eh? I feel fine! throw 'em away? wait, don't; VERMICULITE!
more or less my coffee-induced "issue" was the idea of id'ing a specimen post ingestion
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Edited by MonkeyJesusFresco (10/21/13 10:09 AM)
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ZippyHippyinWA
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My worry was more one of greed. Its not uncommon for some moron to pick a few "shrooms" and pass them off as "cultivated" to sell them to unsuspecting custies for some quick cash. Happened to me as a kid and i'm sure many others on here. People can be assholes after all and I hate to see people taken advantage of.....much less hurt by the ignorance of others.
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Inconspicuous
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MonkeyJesusFresco said: oh ha, yeah sorry
too much coffee, I ended up paraphrasing the entire thread in my head like this:
"hey guys I ate some questionable mushrooms that I just found laying around on the web and I'm not tripping but they could be something other than what I thought they were what say ye all??? here's some pictures of dried fungus with little to no remarkable identifying characteristics/traits. possibly poisonous species eh? I feel fine! throw 'em away? wait, don't; VERMICULITE!
more or less my coffee-induced "issue" was the idea of id'ing a specimen post ingestion 
This is exactly what I thouight. I think the TI's did the best they could have done with the information they were given, the ones that identified the mushrooms as cubes did so from experience and the others that thought they may be poisonous were playing it safe. After all if someone is going to eat it and you are not 100% sure, it's not worth it.
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rev0kadavur
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Just consider this a lesson learned.... never eat or buy any active mushrooms from anyone unless you trust the person and know them personally, and your confident that you know what you have.. if they are cubes they are past their prime and like mentioned above, probably came from a high CO2 environment.... however, most actives can vary in strength from one patch/batch to the next... even past their prime, as long as they aren't rotting the potency doesn't degrade, until conditions change or decomposition of the fruiting body begins.... these do not look that old.......
My guess, if they were shipped to you, is that they were either effected by heat in transport or they could even be from a batch dried 6+ months ago and poorly stored, causing the potency to degrade.... all mushrooms potency will drop unless proper measures are taken to preserve them.
Strong mushrooms dried and stored in a bag or jar on a shelf in a room that fluctuates in temperature and light will likelly be half as potent 6 months later.
Stored the same way in a consistently cool dark space and they may retain all their strength a year later.
There are other methods that can preserve them indefinitely. Possibly for decades.
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rev0kadavur
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Inconspicuous said:
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MonkeyJesusFresco said: oh ha, yeah sorry
too much coffee, I ended up paraphrasing the entire thread in my head like this:
"hey guys I ate some questionable mushrooms that I just found laying around on the web and I'm not tripping but they could be something other than what I thought they were what say ye all??? here's some pictures of dried fungus with little to no remarkable identifying characteristics/traits. possibly poisonous species eh? I feel fine! throw 'em away? wait, don't; VERMICULITE!
more or less my coffee-induced "issue" was the idea of id'ing a specimen post ingestion 
This is exactly what I thouight. I think the TI's did the best they could have done with the information they were given, the ones that identified the mushrooms as cubes did so from experience and the others that thought they may be poisonous were playing it safe. After all if someone is going to eat it and you are not 100% sure, it's not worth it.
^^^^^Real shit!
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