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Re: What did I eat? [Re: bloodworm]
    #19003716 - 10/20/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

is there any blue bruising on them at all??

i think i might see some...

can you take a photo of the bruising?


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Ran-D]
    #19003732 - 10/20/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't pretend to know what they are but after buying many cubes,finding many cubes, and growing a few cubes (cubes are the only active besides amanita i have ever done)these do not look like cubes to me. No blueing on my screen at all and gills and top of cap look off enough that if you tried to sell me these I would have a definite problem with you. My 2 cents.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19004154 - 10/20/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well thanks fellas

Pretty much decided to toss them, but if anyone would be interested in additional I've uploaded them in Hi-res

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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Tampee]
    #19004489 - 10/20/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



I think I see several blue bruises, make sure to check them all, on weaker shrooms it will usually happen at the base if the stipe.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19004559 - 10/20/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that they do look like Hypholoma. In any event, H. fasciculare would be the worst case scenario for a mushroom of this description.

They also look like they could be P. cubensis, or any of a large handful of other purple spored mushrooms which look superficially similar.

Given the lack of any acute symptoms either way, I might suggest taking it at this worst case, not eating more and chalking it up as a loss.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: canid]
    #19004708 - 10/20/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah toss em. Good call on the Hypholoma Blood.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Ganzig] * 1
    #19004871 - 10/20/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

While I may not be a TI, I have grown thousands of cubes and have seen them in all sorts of various states of age and decay . . .

I I am pretty sure you threw away some cubes. But if you didnt trip then they would not have done you any good anyway.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19004922 - 10/20/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Don't see any bluing myself, maybe some slight hues of purple. Definitely go with the TI's, if there is ever any doubt, throw them out!!


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: wolfedawwg]
    #19004994 - 10/20/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you have eaten some already you may want to keep a sample, in case you get sick. The onset of symptoms of mushroom poisoning can be delayed a few days. The doctors need to have a sample for identification purposes. It helps them with distinguishing treatments.

I have tasted H. fascicular in the field fresh, it is very bitter. I don't know how anybody could actually manage to eat enough to poison themselves with it. I don't know the LD50 of it though.

Lets hope they are just old cubes.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: dodeski]
    #19005007 - 10/20/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have tasted H. fascicular in the field fresh, it is very bitter.
Lets hope they are just old cubes.





That is true. Were they bitter OP?


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: dodeski]
    #19005014 - 10/20/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The recorded poisonings for H. fasciculare indicate short duration of onset, and no not to my knowledge support long-term harm.

The one death I have read of involved mixed species consumption, and it is said pointed towards amatoxin poisoning, which is not otherwise consistent with the data, so may not have been caused by the hypholoma.

It wouldn't hurt [physiologically] to seek medical intervention, so I won't go so far as to advise against it.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: canid] * 1
    #19005771 - 10/20/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They are Psilocybe cubensis.  Take them out of the garbage.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005804 - 10/20/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'll buy it, but I don't mind saying I am unable to be certain on basis of my own ability.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19005959 - 10/20/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They are Psilocybe cubensis.  Take them out of the garbage.




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Re: What did I eat? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19006020 - 10/20/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I would personally go with Allens opinion. He is the shiznit here. Good luck.


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19007239 - 10/21/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is true, he's top of the pecking order and wouldn't say to eat it if he wasn't 100% sure. And he isn't the only one here to say it, Tangich and Ganzig have been right all along. (Me, I was thinking the same thing as Bloodworm.)


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Joie]
    #19007261 - 10/21/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's been a TI standoff


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #19007305 - 10/21/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:smile:

It isn't a contest, and tbh I'm happy enough that having suspected something was off I leaned on the side of caution, even if I was mistaken. It isn't the worst kind of mistake one can make here.

Sure ideally we give unambiguous info, and it is reassuring to get these things right every time, but that isn't realistic IDing mushrooms from photos (especially dried) and it also serves the purpose of the site to share doubts and insights and learn from the process.

Hopefully that isn't reading like self-justification, just perspective, and I am sorry to OP for throwing a spanner in the works!


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #19007387 - 10/21/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What the hell guys?!

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What did I eat?




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I don't think they're Hypholoma...




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Alan Rockefeller said:
They are Psilocybe cubensis.  Take them out of the garbage.




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It's been a TI standoff




These have to be the most unnerving comments I've read in a thread all year; reading this thread was more intense than the last episode of The Walking Dead :laugh:


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Re: What did I eat? [Re: Joie]
    #19007397 - 10/21/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Op, are you a heavy person? I only ask because I've noticed that people with a larger body frame seem to take more substance to get to the same level as a smaller person.

Also, those cubes look past their prime picking.  I don't think they were grown with much love.


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