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DeepMedi
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Taz grow and new member happy to join
#19002292 - 10/20/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello there,
This the first post here and I just wanted to let you all know that Im glad to join and look forward to making good friends/mentors in here
Started growing about a year ago so still a noob and need to learn a lot, thats the main purpose here to learn and share my experience with follow growers who might some how benefit from it as well
Have only 2 successful grows under the belt and 3 failed attempts at spawning grains to bulk. the sucessful grows were using pf tek style sub first time in a bag and the second using half pints
Here shall be shared with you the latest grow which was tazmanian cube PF tek style
This grow just made it half way tru the second flush before thrich tried to take a hold of most of the cakes
Here it its from start of fruiting to finish






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Khii Khwaay
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19002302 - 10/20/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey, welcome to the shroomery.
Do you have any holes in you tub? It looks like you could do with a bit more FAE.
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: Khii Khwaay]
#19002334 - 10/20/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: Khii Khwaay]
#19002339 - 10/20/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks,
No holes in the tub and I have to admit it had only a poor FAE shedule about 2 - 3 a day
I suspect this low FAE is why the mushrooms on the first flush were falling over before maturing?
And also what helped the trich take a hold?
Theres plenty of Poly around so for the next grow will add some polly fill Gas Exchange holes
Thanks!
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19002350 - 10/20/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sgfc....
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19002359 - 10/20/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeepMedi said: No holes in the tub and I have to admit it had only a poor FAE shedule about 2 - 3 a day
We do not fan for FAE, this is what the holes do.
We fan only after misting the cakes, to promote evaporation, which is a main pinning trigger.
Drill 1/4" holes every 2" on all 6 sides, this will fix the FAE and contam problem.
Contams love stale air, not to mention that the perlite is pretty much useless without these holes.
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DeepMedi said: I suspect this low FAE is why the mushrooms on the first flush were falling over before maturing?
Yes, and why they have fuzzy stems, and most likely the cause of your trich problem.
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DeepMedi said: Theres plenty of Poly around so for the next grow will add some polly fill Gas Exchange holes
You seriously need to do more reading.
You only need GE for colonization, after that you need lots of fresh air for fruiting.
This fresh air does not have to be filtered, not that the polyfill will filter it anyways.
I am sorry to say that you will continue to fail and get shitty results unless research more.
Start by reading all the links in my signature....but start here first.
www.mushroomvideos.com
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: jboredone]
#19002360 - 10/20/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: PussyFart]
#19002400 - 10/20/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
You seriously need to do more reading.
You only need GE for colonization, after that you need lots of fresh air for fruiting.
Right, GE holes are the ones we use in colonizing jars/bags
I used the wrong term, I guess FAE holes would be a more appropiate term to describe them tub holes, some times the vocabulary can get confusing lol
Thanks for the help
Edited by DeepMedi (10/20/13 01:32 AM)
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19002463 - 10/20/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heres a few pics of my first grow
This was a 2 pound bag of PF style sub, strain was amazonian
the cake was taken out of the bag when it was fully colonised and placed inside the same tub shown above with no holes and with hydrated perlite on the bottom
basically the same setup exept this time there was more daily FAE done by taking of the lid and fanning the tube with it for a moment after misting
There was no trich nor mediocre results
Edited by DeepMedi (10/20/13 02:14 AM)
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19002481 - 10/20/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I count 10, maybe 12 mushrooms from that block, with a bunch of surface area not pinning.
I am wondering what your definition of mediocre is exactly, because that is quite pitiful.
I never said that everything you put in that chamber will contam, but the fact thet there is 0 constant FAE sure doesn't help anything.
You would have to fan that thing out multiple times per hour to do any good.
Or just follow a known tek and drill some holes.
The latter makes more sense to me.
Just trying to help, don't be so closed minded.
Oh yea, and there is no need for polyfill in this setup, just drill the holes as described above and in the tek I linked and you will be golden.
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: PussyFart]
#19002522 - 10/20/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know your just helping out man, no problem, thats what Im looking for after all 'help' so I can get better at this each time
As for my definition of mediocre well not so good/below average
I know I dint get exeptional results but if I get enough fruits to last me for a couple months I call it a good grow but yeah could have done way better
Results I got are nothing compared to bulk/all over canopies some growers pull off which some day I will hopefully be pumping up too with the help of good folks like your self
Thanks again
Edited by DeepMedi (10/20/13 02:44 AM)
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: PussyFart]
#19005023 - 10/20/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
Oh yea, and there is no need for polyfill in this setup, just drill the holes as described above and in the tek I linked and you will be golden.
Do we need to drill those sgfc holes even if we have a couple of golf ball size holes filled with polly on the tub walls?
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19005111 - 10/20/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeepMedi said:
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Notahacker420 said:
Oh yea, and there is no need for polyfill in this setup, just drill the holes as described above and in the tek I linked and you will be golden.
Do we need to drill those sgfc holes even if we have a couple of golf ball size holes filled with polly on the tub walls?
If you have perlite in the bottom, yes.
Perlite in the bottom of a tub without 1/4" holes drilled 2" apart on all 6 sides is pretty much useless.
Air needs to be able to pass up and thru the perlite, in order to humidify the tub.
What you are describing is a monotub setup, which works quite differently....moisture evaporating off the substrate humidifies a monotub.
Monotubs have polyfill stuffed in the holes to regulate FAE, while still keeping in humidity.
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19005199 - 10/20/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeepMedi said: Do we need to drill those sgfc holes even if we have a couple of golf ball size holes filled with polly on the tub walls?
Watch this. He shows a good example of a SGFC and should explain everything
Edited by ISuckAtHalo (10/20/13 06:40 PM)
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: PussyFart]
#19005275 - 10/20/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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all right, got it, thanks
hey by the way Ive been consedering ditching the perlite, preparing it gets tiresome plus I prefer to use it in the garden
what would you recomend for a replacement? a cool mist humidifier?
Ive heard of paper towells is that any good in pf cake tubs?
Anither Q: when I get ready to retry a bulk grow its gonna be spawning colonised corn to past hpoo in a myco bag to form a big block wich at the end of colonization would be taken out of the bag an into the FC
Now in this set up what would you recomend to maintain proper rh?
This wouldnt work like in a monotub where the sub provides the humidity?
Would have to use a humidifier or the good ol perlite on the bottom (with the sg holes)?
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: ISuckAtHalo]
#19005279 - 10/20/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ISuckAtHalo said:
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DeepMedi said: Do we need to drill those sgfc holes even if we have a couple of golf ball size holes filled with polly on the tub walls?
Watch this. He shows a good example of a SGFC and should explain everything 
Thanks!
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19005309 - 10/20/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeepMedi said: all right, got it, thanks
hey by the way Ive been consedering ditching the perlite, preparing it gets tiresome plus I prefer to use it in the garden
what would you recomend for a replacement? a cool mist humidifier?
Ive heard of paper towells is that any good in pf cake tubs?
No, there is no replacement for perlite in a SGFC.
A humidifier will saturate the cakes, and wet towels just sounds like something nasty waiting to pop up.
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DeepMedi said: Anither Q: when I get ready to retry a bulk grow its gonna be spawning colonised corn to past hpoo in a myco bag to form a big block wich at the end of colonization would be taken out of the bag an into the FC
Now in this set up what would you recomend to maintain proper rh?
A properly built SGFC. (utilizing perlite)
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DeepMedi said: This wouldnt work like in a monotub where the sub provides the humidity?
No, it wouldn't be big enough or hold enough moisture to provide adequate humidity in a monotub setup by itself, use a SGFC.
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DeepMedi said: Would have to use a humidifier or the good ol perlite on the bottom (with the sg holes)?
No humidifier.
Humidifiers ONLY get used when you have a greenhouse or a martha setup, other than that forget about using humidifiers.
Just perlite in a SGFC, just a bulk substrate in a monotub(the actual size of the tub).
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: DeepMedi]
#19005314 - 10/20/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you want to hear the truth growing cakes is a pain it the ass. Growing bulk is less troublesome but requires more skill. Cakes require a very very humid environment with fae and the only way to really achieve this properly is with a sgfc.
Check out my start to finish bulk tek in my journal. There is a link to it in my sig
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Re: Taz grow and new member happy to join [Re: Stromrider]
#19005342 - 10/20/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: If you want to hear the truth growing cakes is a pain it the ass. Growing bulk is less troublesome but requires more skill. Cakes require a very very humid environment with fae and the only way to really achieve this properly is with a sgfc.
Check out my start to finish bulk tek in my journal. There is a link to it in my sig
Will do, thanks to all for the help!
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Edited by DeepMedi (10/20/13 07:04 PM)
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