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Any libertarian minded larger cities in America?
#19001731 - 10/19/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is anyone aware of any larger cities here in the states that are more libertarian minded than not? By libertarian i mean low taxes, low regulation/permitting, gun & property rights, etc. I know there are some rural areas like this but i also enjoy aspects of the city so i was wondering if any places like this exist.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19003140 - 10/20/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would think the closet thing to what you are looking for would be larger Texas cities. These cities are some of the fastest growing in America.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19003371 - 10/20/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Boise comes to mind.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19003391 - 10/20/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Boise comes to mind.
Calling Boise a city is quite a stretch
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19003445 - 10/20/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it counts. I've actually been there and there seemed to be a fair bit going on of interest.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19003892 - 10/20/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Boise comes to mind.
haha i actually just moved out of Boise about a year ago. I was there for five years and fucking loved it, i lived right downtown actually. Had to leave due to circumstances out of my control unfortunately. And it is most definitely a city, its growing extremely fast and also has things going on
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19009725 - 10/21/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a colleague who did undergraduate work in Fairbanks, Alaska. He raves about it all the time, especially the "libertarian approach to governance and law", but to me it just sounds remote as hell. And COLD.
Edit: I checked the pop'l on wikipedia and it says 30k. Nevermind, not a large city (at least not in my opinion, I've never lived in a city with fewer than 1M residents).
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: huxley_hound]
#19009756 - 10/21/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah if alaska wasnt so fucking cold i'd actually be interested haha
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19010566 - 10/21/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not a city like you're looking for, but if you're interested in moving for political reasons, have you heard of the Free State Project?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: mytehdogizflying]
#19010613 - 10/21/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow that is awesome. I have not heard of that, Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19010642 - 10/21/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get yourself to Somalia, son, that's where all the true libertarians are at.
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viktor said: Get yourself to Somalia, son, that's where all the true libertarians are at.
oh dear lord. Not one of you
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor] 1
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19010748 - 10/21/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Y'all a bunch of sell outs.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
#19010822 - 10/21/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the fuck is wrong with you?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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Socialist scum
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19011648 - 10/22/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well sure. No taxes, with services provided on a pay-as-you-go basic. (those who can pay-get.) Along with general lawlessness and disregard for human life. Sounds like what Dr. Paul's been preaching.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Le_Canard]
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ToiletDuk said: Well sure. No taxes, with services provided on a pay-as-you-go basic. (those who can pay-get.) Along with general lawlessness and disregard for human life. Sounds like what Dr. Paul's been preaching.
it would better serve you to understand what you are arguing against before making a statement against it.
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you obviously do not understand what you are talking about, one of the fundamental principles of libertarianism is that the main role of the government should be protection of the individual from those that would do him/her harm
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
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Can I own slaves in libertarianism?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: Can I own slaves in libertarianism?
HA no you are interfering with a citizens autonomy and violating there rights. Your rights end when you start trying to curtail the rights of those around you.
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HA no you are interfering with a citizens autonomy and violating there rights. Your rights end when you start trying to curtail the rights of those around you.
exactly. You can do whatever you want as long as you are not coercing another individual against their will. Slavery is 100% in the opposite of libertarianism
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19017569 - 10/23/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HA no you are interfering with a citizens autonomy and violating there rights. Your rights end when you start trying to curtail the rights of those around you.
Were the Founding Fathers libertarians?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: Can I own slaves in libertarianism?
HA no you are interfering with a citizens autonomy and violating there rights. Your rights end when you start trying to curtail the rights of those around you.
Were the Founding Fathers libertarians?
Applying modern morality to 18th century Europeans is a terrible comparison since so much has changed. However the likes of Jefferson and Franklin did lay the foundation for modern libertarian movements namely in the idea that markets not government edicts produce prosperity. Pretty much every libertarian I know supports gay marriage well pretty much supports any activity as long as others are not harmed. The common ground is support for a smaller government that stays out of the social and economic lives of its citizens.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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I believe that slavery is fine under libertarianism because anyone who would submit to slavery is incapable of governing themselves and therefore to enslave them is not an act of harm but one of stewardship.
Only a socialist would disagree.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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you do realize that if you submit to slavery its not slavery right? The very definition of slave means you are forced or coerced against your will. Two things which are the central pillars of what libertarians believe the government should protect against
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
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psyconaught said: you do realize that if you submit to slavery its not slavery right? The very definition of slave means you are forced or coerced against your will. Two things which are the central pillars of what libertarians believe the government should protect against
Nice spanking. Which I had gotten there first.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
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psyconaught said: you do realize that if you submit to slavery its not slavery right? The very definition of slave means you are forced or coerced against your will. Two things which are the central pillars of what libertarians believe the government should protect against
My point is that you cannot be forced or coerced against your will. Even if your options are slavery or death, you are entirely free to choose death.
In much the same way that you are not forced or coerced to pay taxes, because you are entirely free to choose imprisonment (or death).
Therefore, it's entirely permissible to force someone to work in a cotton field at gunpoint, because they are always free to choose calling your bluff and maybe getting shot dead.
This is TRUE libertarianism. The Founding Fathers, such as George Washington, understood this when they kept slaves on their plantations.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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you have no idea what you are talking about. Putting a gun to someones head is coercing them. Threatening someone with a life in a cage if you dont give them money is coercion. A threat of violence is still forcing/coercing them. The founding fathers were not libertarians either. Some of them held some beliefs that were similar, but to attach them to the libertarian movement falsely then use their faults as argument against libertarians is intellectually dishonest. and i believe your aware of this as well.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19021369 - 10/23/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everything the government does is at the point of a gun. Libertarians are not anarchists
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zappaisgod said: Everything the government does is at the point of a gun. Libertarians are not anarchists
agreed. i was simply making a point that his examples were not free choices
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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psyconaught said: you do realize that if you submit to slavery its not slavery right? The very definition of slave means you are forced or coerced against your will. Two things which are the central pillars of what libertarians believe the government should protect against
My point is that you cannot be forced or coerced against your will. Even if your options are slavery or death, you are entirely free to choose death.
In much the same way that you are not forced or coerced to pay taxes, because you are entirely free to choose imprisonment (or death).
Therefore, it's entirely permissible to force someone to work in a cotton field at gunpoint, because they are always free to choose calling your bluff and maybe getting shot dead.
This is TRUE libertarianism. The Founding Fathers, such as George Washington, understood this when they kept slaves on their plantations.
Expecting 18th century humans to have a 21st century moral code is asinine.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Maybe people in the 24th century will look back and think libertarianism is asinine
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viktor said: Maybe people in the 24th century will look back and think libertarianism is asinine 
then i would feel very bad for a society that looks down upon freedom and personal responsibility
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
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They might have freedom and personal responsibility without the letting-sick-people-die-in-the-gutters sadism of 21st century libertarians.
Personally I think this combination of freedom and compassion is what's necessary.
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viktor said: They might have freedom and personal responsibility without the letting-sick-people-die-in-the-gutters sadism of 21st century libertarians.
Personally I think this combination of freedom and compassion is what's necessary.
See what you don't understand is that life will never be fair to all citizens ever under any political system libertarianism is simply the best and most equitable way for all citizens to achieve there goals without the state fucking them over.
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Paying a bit of tax isn't getting fucked over. Dying in the street because your fellow humans have had their natural empathy ripped out of them by a culture of greed and violence is getting fucked over.
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viktor said: Paying a bit of tax isn't getting fucked over. Dying in the street because your fellow humans have had their natural empathy ripped out of them by a culture of greed and violence is getting fucked over.
So no private charities or religious institutions exist in your world even in the US today everyone is treated no one is turned away. With total privatization of healthcare costs will drop to bad the socialists want to keep there iron grip on power so it will never happen.
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My point is that you cannot be forced or coerced against your will. Even if your options are slavery or death, you are entirely free to choose death.
This might well be the single most ridiculous post I have ever seen on the Shroomery and I have seen a fucking bunch of stupidity. Get a fucking dictionary
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viktor said: Paying a bit of tax isn't getting fucked over. Dying in the street because your fellow humans have had their natural empathy ripped out of them by a culture of greed and violence is getting fucked over.
Let me guess how much tax you pay. I believe the Brits have an excellent descriptor. It is called "fuck all". Get your fucking gun out of my face.
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viktor said: Paying a bit of tax isn't getting fucked over. Dying in the street because your fellow humans have had their natural empathy ripped out of them by a culture of greed and violence is getting fucked over.
So no private charities or religious institutions exist in your world even in the US today everyone is treated no one is turned away. With total privatization of healthcare costs will drop to bad the socialists want to keep there iron grip on power so it will never happen.
Are you aware that US healthcare is more private, more expensive and lower quality than in every Western European country?
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It is not viktor the healthcare system in the US is heavily regulated and as a result incredibly expensive.
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viktor said: Paying a bit of tax isn't getting fucked over. Dying in the street because your fellow humans have had their natural empathy ripped out of them by a culture of greed and violence is getting fucked over.
Let me guess how much tax you pay. I believe the Brits have an excellent descriptor. It is called "fuck all". Get your fucking gun out of my face.
Sitting here in New Zealand and knowing that you have to pay all these taxes so that people you hate can sit around smoking weed and drinking Colt 40s makes me so happy 
I'm sexually aroused by your impotent rage, knowing that you will never, ever, ever get what you want
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor]
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Put down the crack pipe viktor
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Ive been looking for this as well. Remember racist haters and corruption are all across the land. Do you think every crime that occurs with LEO knowledge, is reported? Rural areas are best, for American Caucasians, anyway. The other factor is money. Look for areas that have low rates of incarceration and arrests, areas that dont have corrupted undercover narcotics enforcement. Whatever areas have a large portion of elderly retired etc.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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I'm not on crack. I believe in the Middle Way, so I get great pleasure out of the fury of people who are tempted by Satan onto the selfish path of loneliness and fear.
Seriously, the libertarian thing is never gonna happen. We had it in the late 19th century and decided it was inhumane. It's only being revived because the Koch brothers have sunk heaps of money into promoting it to people who think they're more important than they really are.
Socialism is here to stay. That's life. Accept it, join us in the real world, and learn to work with it instead of crying about it. No-one cares about your dreams of being a feudal landlord. No-one.
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I am aware that what you just wrote is for the most part complete bullshit. Whose tit are you afraid of losing?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: zappaisgod]
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It's 100% truth. I just enjoy mocking people who have cut themselves off from the rest of humanity to chase a fantasy that will never materialise.
Your anger is my amusement. Obamacare is one of the greatest things for me as a vicarious sadist, knowing that after 200 years of wealthy Americans exploiting blacks it has now been reversed.
Comeuppance is sweet!
It's really sad that some people can't conceive that a person might see merit in solidarity without being poor themselves. Can you not tell from the quality of spelling and grammar in my posts that I am a highly educated (and therefore highly paid) individual?
The solution to the pain of not having your (self-assessed) greatness recognised is to count your blessings. That's all you have to do.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: zappaisgod]
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This is my reply to Zappais. I think your a right wing racist that is filled with hatred. I cant believe you havent been permanently banned. You have trolled this board for years. I find that suspicious. I dont consider you one of the people. Somethings funny that you havent been banned. Theres too many poor people, and they are poor because of racist haters like you. We outnumber you all. We have lived hard desperate lives, we feel no pain. You and yours do not stand a chance. You carry a gun everywhere you go, dont you?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus]
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Thanks for the laugh itz.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: viktor] 2
#19027274 - 10/24/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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viktor said: It's 100% truth. I just enjoy mocking people who have cut themselves off from the rest of humanity to chase a fantasy that will never materialise.
If I have cut myself off from the rest of hmanity how the fuck am I able to bank what I bank?  Quote:
Your anger is my amusement. Obamacare is one of the greatest things for me as a vicarious sadist, knowing that after 200 years of wealthy Americans exploiting blacks it has now been reversed.
Aside from the fact that they have been given preferential treatment for 50 years why are they still such failures?Quote:
Comeuppance is sweet!
You think disproportionate reliance on the shitty taxpayer tit is somehow a comeuppance for whitey? Quote:
It's really sad that some people can't conceive that a person might see merit in solidarity without being poor themselves. Can you not tell from the quality of spelling and grammar in my posts that I am a highly educated (and therefore highly paid) individual?
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The solution to the pain of not having your (self-assessed) greatness recognised is to count your blessings. That's all you have to do.
I would prefer to keep my blessings, such as they are, and not have them confiscated for losers.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus] 2
#19027298 - 10/24/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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itz4allofus said: This is my reply to Zappais. I think your a right wing racist that is filled with hatred. I cant believe you havent been permanently banned. You have trolled this board for years. I find that suspicious. I dont consider you one of the people. Somethings funny that you havent been banned. Theres too many poor people, and they are poor because of racist haters like you. We outnumber you all. We have lived hard desperate lives, we feel no pain. You and yours do not stand a chance. You carry a gun everywhere you go, dont you?
I don't troll. I defy you to find one single racist post. Poor people are poor because they are stupid in spite of having been given way more help than was warranted. I have been broke. I didn't stay broke. I got no help from anybody except employment. Sadly for you, with your attitude, you will probably not match me. I do not carry a gun. I do not live in fear of anyone.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19027321 - 10/24/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Give me more! Your pain feeds my soul.
I've got enough, you see. I don't want more, so I'm free! A freedom you won't ever know.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19027327 - 10/24/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the laugh itz.
So what gives with this guy? He's benn on this board for close to decade flamming and castigating everyone.I dont remember a time when he ever said something constructive or intellectual nor a time when he provided useful information that is relevant to the subject matter of this board How does this board tolerate that?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus] 2
#19027357 - 10/24/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What gives with this guy is he comes armed with facts. Facts you clearly dislike as you think he should be banned.
If ever a comment deserved flames it was yours.
Oh... just to clarify, the was for you and your comments.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19027444 - 10/24/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: What gives with this guy is he comes armed with facts. Facts you clearly dislike as you think he should be banned.
If ever a comment deserved flames it was yours.
Oh... just to clarify, the was for you and your comments.
Facts that are lies, my friend. As a person filled with prejudice hate and rage, Im sure you can understand. There used to be a level of intellect and general intelligence here. This board has been taken over by haters. Unfortunately, America has been as well. There is, however light on the horizon, a clear light so bright that you hateful cockroaches will be running for cover.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus] 2
#19027514 - 10/24/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not prejudiced and I hate no-one. Not you. Not Obama.
Though it appears you have hate issues.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus]
#19027548 - 10/24/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im outta here, its quite obvious this board is a haven to any hateful psychotic that can afford a membership. I declare the Shroomery to be a forum that condones and promotes Racism. Its my fault, I have a college education and religious training. These dont. I cannot deign to such as this. Your Evil and crude, hard and unkind, but you know that. Dont you?
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: itz4allofus] 2
#19027568 - 10/24/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It appears you have hate issues and have serious problems with those who don't march in lock-step with you.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19027619 - 10/24/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That isn't the clarity I got from him. You're being polite in your speech. I'm going to be polite by not speaking.
I wonder whose puppet he is.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught] 1
#19046478 - 10/28/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Portland? No sales tax, and seemed fairly libertarian. Also one of the cooler cities in this country.
I live in San Francisco which is probably the exact opposite of what you're looking for, hell I think we give healthcare to illegals. I like the city just fine personally, here and Oakland.
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: Chespirito]
#19046488 - 10/28/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chespirito said: Portland? No sales tax, and seemed fairly libertarian. Also one of the cooler cities in this country.
I live in San Francisco which is probably the exact opposite of what you're looking for, hell I think we give healthcare to illegals. I like the city just fine personally, here and Oakland.
i've always wanted to live in san francisco for the city itself. But god damn i can't stand the politics haha
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Re: Any libertarian minded larger cities in America? [Re: psyconaught]
#19046495 - 10/28/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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San Francisco is great but its politics are like a left wing authoritarianism
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