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Transporting a small stash in vehicles
    #19001595 - 10/19/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

SWIM knows a guy who makes deliveries around town. He delivers things that the local PD dosnt like.

He was thinking of making his car look like a pizza delivery car with the little sign on top and everything. He wants to get an official looking uniform and he started collecting pizza boxes.

He wants to keep his product In the empty boxes, deliver right to the front door, and make the exchange.

Any thoughts on his idea or better ways to make his deliveries?


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Rzhoz]
    #19001609 - 10/19/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: johnm214]
    #19001634 - 10/19/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You could do that and if you ever get pulled over you could say you make pranks and this is one of the ones you do, and have some prank idea with the pizza setup incase they ask. Say you make utub vids

Or it might just draw attention to you, probably better ways to conceal a small stash tbh.

Under the hood etc.


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19001724 - 10/19/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles [Re: Rzhoz]
    #19001741 - 10/19/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not a terrible idea.. few things to address though

Why would a delivery guy have empty pizza boxes?  Pizza delivery guys deliver the pizza along with the box.
Also, would the sign on the top of the car be for a made up pizza place? Or for a local pizza place?  I wouldn't make up a pizza business, local PD would catch on to that I bet


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Salomon] * 1
    #19001762 - 10/19/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

BAD IDEA Here is the problem. Cops espesally in local area know the Pizza places. They love Pizza, A strange Pizza Truck around town. A place they have never herd off They might want to check that Pizza co out.There trained to notice unusual things, Its best to just be a non chalant blend in kind of person, Become invisable. Drive a white car and just blend in breake no laws that will get you  pulled then you be ok


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Eddeee]
    #19001915 - 10/19/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The city is fairly large, and the sign would be for Pizza Hut or dominoes, one of the big chains.
And the boxes would look fine assembled I think. You couldn't tell if they were empty at a glance.

His main concern is if he did get pulled over the car might not smell like its full of pizza unless he used old used pizza boxes.

SWIMs friend figured this was a decent way to conceal multiple bags.
Having these multiple bags gives him intent to sell or distribution.

I'm assuming his main thought here was that he's never seen a pizza guy pulled over.
His second best idea was make his car look like a taxi, I guess he's never seen one of those pulled over either, as mentioned earlier its a good sized city and taxis arnt uncommon


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Rzhoz]
    #19001956 - 10/19/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I guess what im trying to convey here is the Man knows a lot of shit. There is a specal licence for taxi drivers and the cops like to see that. I have a bit of experance as a Taxi driver and yes they do get pulled just to check for cradentials. There are a lot of un licenced taxi drivers around so they like to find those guys. Why an elabrate skeem. Really just obey all traffic laws. They have to have probale cause to pull you. They can't just random pull people to see if there carring drugs. In a big city even easer to just blend in.


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Eddeee]
    #19002120 - 10/19/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Didnt even think about the credentials. Good call thank you. And the town has a population of around 50k and still developing. I believe the PD in SWIMs town wants to keep it from developing and to be blunt the cops are racist and dicks.

The other main thought was late at night the pizza guy dosnt get a second glance cops think he's out doing his job. However those driving late often get pulled over for DUI checks and just for being black or looking suspisious.

I know it might sound off and that's because it is. The PD really likes to make its presence known and I swear they love random searches

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Rzhoz] * 4
    #19002276 - 10/20/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

50k is very small. The cops will know every pizza place out there and what the delivery vehicles look like for each place.  In addition, the pizza place that you're pretending to work for will eventually find out that someone is driving around in a car that claims to be from that place.  One of the delivery drivers or customers will see you...Or you'll inadvertently piss someone off and they'll call the company to complain.

Once the company knows you're out there, the cops will know...then they'll be looking for you.

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Enlil]
    #19002585 - 10/20/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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50k is very small. The cops will know every pizza place out there and what the delivery vehicles look like for each place.  In addition, the pizza place that you're pretending to work for will eventually find out that someone is driving around in a car that claims to be from that place.  One of the delivery drivers or customers will see you...Or you'll inadvertently piss someone off and they'll call the company to complain.

Once the company knows you're out there, the cops will know...then they'll be looking for you.

Of course, you'll never see this post, because you have me ignored.



Why are you ignoring Enlil Wtf?
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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19002688 - 10/20/13 04:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know a dealer who works for Dominoes. He has his own moped to deliver and sells weed. He'll also sell at the counter if you order a special code phrase. I think it's "special garlic bread" or something.


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Wild] * 1
    #19003218 - 10/20/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why not just hide the stash underneath some tools in a toolbox that is locked. Could always say just a HVAC service tech out doing calls. Toolbox is locked because just came from a call in a bad neighborhood and didn't want tools to get stolen.


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19003232 - 10/20/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've also heard that when you get pulled over if you have a locked container of any type the police cannot search it with out a warrant. Can anyone say if this is true?


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Rzhoz]
    #19003318 - 10/20/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've also heard that when you get pulled over if you have a locked container of any type the police cannot search it with out a warrant. Can anyone say if this is true?



You heard wrong.  They generally can't terry frisk a locked container, but they can do a search of them if they have probable cause.  See California v. Acevedo, 500 U.S. 565 (1991):

"The interpretation of the Carroll doctrine set forth in Ross now applies to all searches of containers found in an automobile. In other words, the police may search without a warrant if their search is supported by probable cause."

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Enlil]
    #19003698 - 10/20/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've also heard that when you get pulled over if you have a locked container of any type the police cannot search it with out a warrant. Can anyone say if this is true?



You heard wrong.  They generally can't terry frisk a locked container, but they can do a search of them if they have probable cause.  See California v. Acevedo, 500 U.S. 565 (1991):

"The interpretation of the Carroll doctrine set forth in Ross now applies to all searches of containers found in an automobile. In other words, the police may search without a warrant if their search is supported by probable cause."

Someone quote this and change the spelling of my name so OP can read it.



So if someone has a pad lock on a small toolbox in the vehicle they can break the lock open without a warrant?


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19003736 - 10/20/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They can ask you to remove the lock, and if you refuse, they can cut it, sure...

This is all assuming that they have probable cause to search the vehicle and that the item they're looking for could fit in the toolbox.  If they have probable cause to believe you're carrying a stolen bowling ball, and the toolbox is too small to hold a bowling ball, no...they can't search it.


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Enlil]
    #19003911 - 10/20/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19004022 - 10/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think that case mainly refers to an unsecure container like bags or luggage. I've been pulled over before and searched in my buddy's S10. He had an older model with a locked glove box. Cop searched everywhere and he asked for the key to the glovebox. We honestly didnt have it and he ended his search. He searched us because he smelled pot but never found any.

This was about 5 years ago but still he had probable cause but never proceeded with his search.
Any explanation for this? Did I miss something in that case you refered to? Why didn't he just break it open?


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Re: Transporting a small stash in vehicles (moved) [Re: Rzhoz]
    #19004047 - 10/20/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know if he had probable cause or not.  It sounds like he was just doing a terry frisk.  It's also possible (though not likely) that your particular state has protections that exceed the 4th amendment. In any case, expecting cops to know the law is like expecting pharmacy technicians to know how to do surgery.

The 4th amendment allows the search of locked containers in vehicles based on probable cause alone.


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