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Is culture the creation of men with little dicks?
    #19001561 - 10/19/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As a man with average endowment I'm on the fence on this one. It's certainly true that society benefits some people and not others. Original here.

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In the natural state of humanity, all men were naked. The capability of each man to impress a woman with the shape and vigour of his reproductive organ was not a secret to anyone. This suited some and did not suit others - and the resentment of those others may have done more than anything to shape modern civilisation.

It's possible that the natural state of humanity was characterised by a matriarchal society that resulted in the female holding the majority, if not the entirety, of the power of sexual selection. Precisely what qualities the female looked for in prospective mates is not clear, but no doubt the physical and mental health and vigour of the males were prime considerations. To some extent this would be determined by the tumescence of the erect penis, the rationale being that a male who is sick or afraid (and therefore more worthy of extermination) would have greater difficulty producing a satisfying erection.

That an unhealthy or low-status male might not have the same erectile strength as a healthy, respected one is as true of modern humans as it ever was in the biological past. The difference now is that a female might find herself bound to a male before she is capable of making an accurate judgment about his quality as a mate. This is certainly true of cultures who follow Abrahamic religious values, in which men have the right to sell their daughters to other men, who then effectively own them.

To some extent, all of the cultural conflicts that exist in our society now reflect this basic dichotomy, namely the degree to which women are permitted to select reproductive partners according to the will of Nature and without interference. This might influence the left/right division of political parties, with feminism, non-violence, vegetarianism, cannabis, music, environmentalism, sexual expression, freedom and creativity on one side and dominance hierarchies, warfare, alcohol, capitalism, law, authoritarianism, clothing, meat-eating, slut-shaming, honour killings, sport and driving around shooting things on the other. Environments in which the balance is tipped towards the feminine (universities, Scandinavian culture) tend to prefer the former, and environments in which the balance is tipped towards the masculine (rugby clubs, Middle Eastern culture) tend to prefer the latter.

When it comes to understanding how society has become the way it has, the crucial question, as ever, is: cui bono? The fewer rights women have, the less men have to impress them in order to reproduce, so it follows that the less impressive a man is the more he will benefit from women having fewer rights. It could be that humanity was pulled away from a matriarchal state by men who were painfully aware that they did not measure up.

The interesting questions raised by this (and these are all questions that Pyrrho and Mr. Anderson, among others, will address here) are: could it be that much of our modern society has been engineered specifically by men who would not have survived or reproduced in a state of nature because their tiny penises would have caused the womenfolk to reject them? Do male supremacist cultures naturally result in a lower standard of genetic health over time because of Nature's restricted ability to cull her defective offspring? Within the same society, do men who belong to male supremacist organisations, such as Christian churches, have significantly smaller penises, or a significantly greater rate of erectile dysfunction, than men who do not (controlling for other factors)? Do men who have striven for wealth and social standing (such as David Cameron, pictured above in black bathing shorts covering his nether region) do so because without cultural trappings they would never get laid?

Is the rise of the gangster explainable by the failure to rise of the men who became gangsters?


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor]
    #19001635 - 10/19/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps if you were a worshiper of Rudra's penis you might be an exception to such logic.  For you would have something that would most definitely produce a 'rise' of life changing monumental proportions for a potential mate.  A trip to the heavens maybe.  And that might seal the deal on an evolutionary scale.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor]
    #19002471 - 10/20/13 02:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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viktor said:
As a man with average endowment I'm on the fence on this one. It's certainly true that society benefits some people and not others. Original here.

* * *

In the natural state of humanity, all men were naked. The capability of each man to impress a woman with the shape and vigour of his reproductive organ was not a secret to anyone. This suited some and did not suit others - and the resentment of those others may have done more than anything to shape modern civilisation.

It's possible that the natural state of humanity was characterised by a matriarchal society that resulted in the female holding the majority, if not the entirety, of the power of sexual selection. Precisely what qualities the female looked for in prospective mates is not clear, but no doubt the physical and mental health and vigour of the males were prime considerations. To some extent this would be determined by the tumescence of the erect penis, the rationale being that a male who is sick or afraid (and therefore more worthy of extermination) would have greater difficulty producing a satisfying erection.

That an unhealthy or low-status male might not have the same erectile strength as a healthy, respected one is as true of modern humans as it ever was in the biological past. The difference now is that a female might find herself bound to a male before she is capable of making an accurate judgment about his quality as a mate. This is certainly true of cultures who follow Abrahamic religious values, in which men have the right to sell their daughters to other men, who then effectively own them.

To some extent, all of the cultural conflicts that exist in our society now reflect this basic dichotomy, namely the degree to which women are permitted to select reproductive partners according to the will of Nature and without interference. This might influence the left/right division of political parties, with feminism, non-violence, vegetarianism, cannabis, music, environmentalism, sexual expression, freedom and creativity on one side and dominance hierarchies, warfare, alcohol, capitalism, law, authoritarianism, clothing, meat-eating, slut-shaming, honour killings, sport and driving around shooting things on the other. Environments in which the balance is tipped towards the feminine (universities, Scandinavian culture) tend to prefer the former, and environments in which the balance is tipped towards the masculine (rugby clubs, Middle Eastern culture) tend to prefer the latter.

When it comes to understanding how society has become the way it has, the crucial question, as ever, is: cui bono? The fewer rights women have, the less men have to impress them in order to reproduce, so it follows that the less impressive a man is the more he will benefit from women having fewer rights. It could be that humanity was pulled away from a matriarchal state by men who were painfully aware that they did not measure up.

The interesting questions raised by this (and these are all questions that Pyrrho and Mr. Anderson, among others, will address here) are: could it be that much of our modern society has been engineered specifically by men who would not have survived or reproduced in a state of nature because their tiny penises would have caused the womenfolk to reject them? Do male supremacist cultures naturally result in a lower standard of genetic health over time because of Nature's restricted ability to cull her defective offspring? Within the same society, do men who belong to male supremacist organisations, such as Christian churches, have significantly smaller penises, or a significantly greater rate of erectile dysfunction, than men who do not (controlling for other factors)? Do men who have striven for wealth and social standing (such as David Cameron, pictured above in black bathing shorts covering his nether region) do so because without cultural trappings they would never get laid?

Is the rise of the gangster explainable by the failure to rise of the men who became gangsters?





Interesting post.  I've suspected for some time now that the human betas have evolved unique strategies to cope successfully with the natural alphas.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Icelander]
    #19002664 - 10/20/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Reading the article seems to make its suppositions on erectile health and shape, not necessarily size.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Icelander]
    #19002676 - 10/20/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Interesting post.  I've suspected for some time now that the human betas have evolved unique strategies to cope successfully with the natural alphas.




It seems to me that the natural beta strategy is to win by deception. I wonder if there might be a natural 1:1 balance of alphas and betas, and that outside of captivity both sides are far less aggressive than what is seen in our societies.

I have a suspicion that the ratio of alphas to betas in our culture is now more like 1:99, which is why there have to be more and more legal restrictions.

It's mad - love your new sig though :thumbup:


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor]
    #19002919 - 10/20/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Also betas can win by guilting  alphas.  Socialism is a very good example imo. The weak get a lot of the spoils and can even rise to the top.
  click on this sucker and enlarge it.  He's one impressive dude.  And he's likely not even pissed.

Here's another one I really like.   Try not to have loose bowels facing off with this cat.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor]
    #19003352 - 10/20/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That was an interesting article, on an interesting website :lol:

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Interesting post.  I've suspected for some time now that the human betas have evolved unique strategies to cope successfully with the natural alphas.




It seems to me that the natural beta strategy is to win by deception. I wonder if there might be a natural 1:1 balance of alphas and betas, and that outside of captivity both sides are far less aggressive than what is seen in our societies.




I think your point on deception is a good one because deception is a very powerful strategy for getting what you want.  If dick size was the only thing that mattered many many years ago, if the guys with little dicks aren't getting laid then they'll be formulating plans on how to deceive everyone so they get a chance to get laid.  Clothes can obviously be deceiving but I'm pretty sure the first pieces of clothing were used to protect your precious parts.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor] * 1
    #19004182 - 10/20/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Too much speculation for my taste, but I do suspect our culture for the past 5000 years at least has been guided by the socially inept. Deformed shamans and micropenis beta males trying to get revenge for their ostracized state by undermining pleasurable aspects of life.

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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor] * 1
    #19006661 - 10/21/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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As a man with average endowment I'm on the fence on this one.



I haven't read the actual post yet, but I think it's hilarious you wanted to make sure, right off the bat, that no one thought you had a small penis.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: NetDiver]
    #19006672 - 10/21/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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As a man with average endowment I'm on the fence on this one.



I haven't read the actual post yet, but I think it's hilarious you wanted to make sure, right off the bat, that no one thought you had a small penis.




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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: NetDiver]
    #19006840 - 10/21/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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viktor said:
As a man with average endowment I'm on the fence on this one.



I haven't read the actual post yet, but I think it's hilarious you wanted to make sure, right off the bat, that no one thought you had a small penis.




Incorrect. I just figured that because my posts are so insightful, funny, touching and courageous that everyone assumed I had a massive one.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: viktor]
    #19006891 - 10/21/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Same here but I actually have a massive one.

( I'm only four inches tall however.)


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Icelander]
    #19007505 - 10/21/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:penisisevil:


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19007869 - 10/21/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is full of lol.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19008072 - 10/21/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:penisisevil:








Zardoz ftw.


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Re: Is culture the creation of men with little dicks? [Re: Icelander]
    #19016787 - 10/22/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Same here but I actually have a massive one.

( I'm only four inches tall however.)




Greeting Priapus! I understand that full grown gorillas actually have like two inch penises. Silverbacks still command a harem of females. :monkeydance:  :grin: Hey, I'm not pointing a finger, I compensate with my 'other' brain. :lol:


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