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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
    #19498429 - 01/30/14 08:15 PM (10 years, 17 hours ago)




This is the best example of the spore print color, the picture I took on foil are too dark to see very well.
I still have that piece of that foil laying around, the spore in person look brown-purple to me. :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
    #19498863 - 01/30/14 09:32 PM (10 years, 15 hours ago)

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Nice work joust! That micrograph you posted here is super awesome!

Spore color purplish to black with a bright reddish brown stem. :confused:



ahh shit, maybe not... I dont have the KEY! AHHH


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19498994 - 01/30/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 15 hours ago)

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Nice work joust! That micrograph you posted here is super awesome!

Spore color purplish to black with a bright reddish brown stem. :confused:



ahh shit, maybe not... I dont have the KEY! AHHH




It's all good, I'm just playing devils advocate here for the sake of an accurate ID.  How do you go about getting the key?  Is it possible your keying out the wrong genus?  I'm sorry if that sounds stupid but I'm not 100% sure microscopically what makes that a for sure Hypholoma. Maybe enlighten me kind sir? 


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
    #19499024 - 01/30/14 10:11 PM (10 years, 15 hours ago)



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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19499332 - 01/30/14 11:45 PM (10 years, 13 hours ago)

im not certain at all. I really know nothing of micro features besides the genus psilocybe. i have only been scoping for like a year... so i need more exp to say, thats why i try to post them up and then have byrain tell me the genus.... the physical work is done at least


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19499496 - 01/31/14 01:13 AM (10 years, 12 hours ago)

Has anyone though of maybe you "scopers" put a list of specific species that are of particular interest in finding, and give details on their habitat, fruiting temps, etc.  Perhaps you may find some adventurous people who would keep an eye out, or actively look for these specific types.


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Dren]
    #19499500 - 01/31/14 01:18 AM (10 years, 12 hours ago)

im reading this now if anyone is interested
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0102-33062007000300008&script=sci_arttext
and now this, trying to find features of hypholoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449000/
cool stuff, wish i had more time.. :sad:


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19499508 - 01/31/14 01:28 AM (10 years, 11 hours ago)

I don't think I can quite make it down to brazil on the weekends. :grin:


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Dren]
    #19502745 - 01/31/14 06:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I am going to look for chrysocystidia, which separates Hypholoma from Psilocybe


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19502758 - 01/31/14 06:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I am going to look for chrysocystidia, which separates Hypholoma from Psilocybe




I was hoping you would, I wasn't convinced of the one you might of found.  You da man joust, thanks for dedicating time to our collection.  I really hope to meet you someday.

Dude, I've learned soooo much from this thread because I haven't got the answer yet and I've been reading and reading and defining terms like crazy.  I'm hoping this lasts a little longer! :rotfl:


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
    #19502767 - 01/31/14 06:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I am going to look for chrysocystidia, which separates Hypholoma from Psilocybe




I was hoping you would, I wasn't convinced of the one you might of found.  You da man joust, thanks for dedicating time to our collection.  I really hope to meet you someday.

Dude, I've learned soooo much from this thread because I haven't got the answer yet and I've been reading and reading and defining terms like crazy.  I'm hoping this lasts a little longer! :rotfl:



yeah i know right! let me know if you find a good key.


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
    #19502780 - 01/31/14 06:56 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

We should still gets some results from Alonzo so this bus isn't pulling over anytime soon :wink:


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19507560 - 02/01/14 06:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

K i spend three more hours chugging along on it today.


Managed to find out theres either no pleurocystidia, or that the pluerocystidia is very small rembling basidioles, but theres quite a few of them. I didnt find any chrysocystidia, so I think that rules out Hypholoma, I would check any mycelium at the base for Stropharia Acanthocytes, I dont its that genus though...
Freaking A is this just Psilocybe silvatica, i was just reviewing and its pretty freaking close....


Heres all the micrographs.


































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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19507899 - 02/01/14 07:59 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Freaking A is this just Psilocybe silvatica, i was just reviewing and its pretty freaking close....





:solidnod:  :fuckinawesome:  :likeaboss:
I'm excited to hear you say this, welcome to the dark-side
The habitat and description seems very similar to P. silvatica IMO
Exciting stuff!


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19507913 - 02/01/14 08:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

If these really all Psilocybe silvatica, then all the pictures up on your guide for Psilocybe silvatica are probably Psilocybe pelliculosa.


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: kcrocker802]
    #19507921 - 02/01/14 08:05 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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If these really all Psilocybe silvatica, then all the pictures up on your guide for Psilocybe silvatica are probably Psilocybe pelliculosa.



I'm almost sure that the "Psilocybe silvatica" pictures in PMOTW are of P. pelliculosa.


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19508036 - 02/01/14 08:35 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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If these really all Psilocybe silvatica, then all the pictures up on your guide for Psilocybe silvatica are probably Psilocybe pelliculosa.



I'm almost sure that the "Psilocybe silvatica" pictures in PMOTW are of P. pelliculosa.



yes... i agree!


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19508046 - 02/01/14 08:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Its just weird, i wish i knew more about general micro features of genera, Its either Psilocybe silvatica or not even in the genus psilocybe haha


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19508516 - 02/01/14 10:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Well that's not very conclusive then! :lol: Alan! Where are you?


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
    #19508541 - 02/01/14 10:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

You should try to get some 1000x cystidia pics in a crush mount.  Start with nothing but tiny!!!!! piece of the gill face and then smash it! You can then repeat that with the gill edge.


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