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maynardjameskeenan
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Psilocybe silvatica 1
#19001057 - 10/19/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found these in a bog, growing out of leaf litter of hardwoods and other woody debris. I think they might be silvatica, they certainly look like a Psilocybe to me. The spore prints are purple.



















Cluster around bushes are trees mostly.
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: paracelsus]
#19001251 - 10/19/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't have any knowledge of P. silvatica and the resources seem deficient. They sure do look psilocybe!
Did you peel back the pellicle? Don't see any bluing on the cap margins but I do see that little bit on the stem butt.
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Are they staining blue?
Please save the collection for scientific study!
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maynardjameskeenan
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thetonebone72 said: I don't have any knowledge of P. silvatica and the resources seem deficient. They sure do look psilocybe!
Did you peel back the pellicle? Don't see any bluing on the cap margins but I do see that little bit on the stem butt.

They do have a pellicle but it's super-thin and really hard to separate. I haven't noticed much bluing really on the caps either, a few of the cut-stems and basal-mycelium (in the right light) do kinda look blue in person.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Alan Rockefeller said: Are they staining blue?
Please save the collection for scientific study!
I was thinking of seeing if the OSU herbarium took type collections. I really should send them out to someone who is good at micrographs, I still suck. I will send some to the address you gave me, thank for your help.
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Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/20/13 07:05 AM)
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Hell, I'd be pleased to do the microscopy if I were quite competent and had the time. And I probably do have the time, lol.
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: canid]
#19002458 - 10/20/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Interesting find! I don't know if it's silvatica but it sure looks like a Psilocybe!
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Alan Rockefeller
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You should ask Joe Ammirati o study it. And send some to Virginia Ramirez for good measure. She is one of the best in the world with regards to Psilocybe and Deconica.
But really the best place for this collection is the Institute of Ecology in Xalapa.
Have you considered P. liniformans?
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Handsome shrooms.
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jet li
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Re: P. liniformans - would be the first to my knowledge of P. liniformans in wood substrate.
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: jet li]
#19003004 - 10/20/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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can you get in trouble for sending mushrooms for study if they were active and got opened at like customs or something?
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: hidenseek1]
#19003150 - 10/20/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hidenseek1 said: can you get in trouble for sending mushrooms for study if they were active and got opened at like customs or something?
Fuck that , its for science. Id do it in a second.
Cool find May!! I am not sure if this fits for P silvatica. But rad none the less.
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: hidenseek1]
#19003242 - 10/20/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hidenseek1 said: can you get in trouble for sending mushrooms for study if they were active and got opened at like customs or something?
You could, but it is super unlikely. Customs is used to finding big bags of cubes. They typically do nothing for sending small amounts of drugs. Also you do not need to put your real return address. I asked Laura Guzman about this and she said it was totally legal for her to receive Psilocybe in the mail. The Institutr of Ecology and most other herbariums have a permit to have psilocybin mushrooms. Also in the usa, the drug laws only apply if you know you have drugs. If you do not know if they are active or not, you have a good defense in court. The reason for this is that mens rea is an element of the offense that must be proven by the government to get a conviction.
Regarding the pellicle, that mostly applies to liberty caps. It is super easy to peel a liberty cap pellicle and significantly more difficult for other Psilocybe species. Many non-psilocybes have a seperable pellicle, Russula for example.
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The pellicle is prevelant in P pelliculosa so I would expect the same for P silvatica.
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hmm, there appears to be bluing, you should send one to me if you have enough. Very cool!
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Alan Rockefeller
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psylosymonreturns said:
Fuck that , its for science. Id do it in a second.
Apparently you already have, as you were given an honorable mention in Virginia's recent Psilocybe phylogeny paper.
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psylosymonreturns
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
Fuck that , its for science. Id do it in a second.
Apparently you already have, as you were given an honorable mention in Virginia's recent Psilocybe phylogeny paper. 
Oh wow that is so cool!!!
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Maybe it's just me, but they look like ovoids...
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