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Coen
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Cantharellus species?
#19000380 - 10/19/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks kinda like young Cantharellus formosus to me, but I've never found chanterelles... Habitat: Near a tree (maybe a douglas fir), seem to be growing out of wood chips.
Gills: golden orange, more like thick, shallow folds than actual defined gills.
Stem: about 2-3cm long, 0.75cm wide, golden orange
Cap: about 1.5-2cm in diameter, golden orange, becoming more brown, flat, undulating a bit
Spore print color: Dunno
Bruising: N/A
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen]
#19000972 - 10/19/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those appear to be growing directly from the wood chips, which would make them Hygrophoropsis aurantiacum, False Chanterelles. They look more like Chanterelles than the false ones usually do.
A good check is the odor. True Chanterelles have a somewhat fruit like odor that False Chanterelles lack.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: ToxicMan]
#19000990 - 10/19/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ToxicMan said: They look more like Chanterelles than the false ones usually do.

Surely those are not true gills!
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Joie]
#19001024 - 10/19/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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they kinda remind me of the flat topped club shaped variety that I find at the base of redwoods...
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the weird thing is though is that they are growing directly off wood chips.. that is very un-chanterelle like.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: rev0kadavur] 1
#19001222 - 10/19/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If that is what they are doing, they have the potential to be the most valuable chanterelles ever.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Joie]
#19001253 - 10/19/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, they would actually be cultivatable... which would be an astounding mycological discovery..... but so so very doubtful that will ever be true... 
I have a baby chanterelle tree... if I am lucky, I will see a few chanterelles before I die.
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Ok, interesting. There are still some larger specimens at the place where I found these little guys. I'll go take some in situ photos and harvest them to get a better idea. These little guys don't really smell fruity to me. They just smell like a potent A. bisporus...
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen]
#19001393 - 10/19/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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more pics would be awesome... im curious to see more, definitely.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen] 1
#19001408 - 10/19/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, from looking through Arora, I think these are false chanterelles. There it says the gills can be blunt when young and they are usually "forked dichotomously" -- which seems to describe what I got.
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however, chances are they are a weird shaped under-formed Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen]
#19001431 - 10/19/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Coen said: Ok, from looking through Arora, I think these are false chanterelles. There it says the gills can be blunt when young and they are usually "forked dichotomously" -- which seems to describe what I got.
Yeah, I would go with this observation... they have the color and looks of it... and they have the same appetite. 
There is no way those are a Cantharellus, so far as currently known information would vouch for at least.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: ToxicMan]
#19001439 - 10/19/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ToxicMan said: Those appear to be growing directly from the wood chips, which would make them Hygrophoropsis aurantiacum, False Chanterelles. They look more like Chanterelles than the false ones usually do.
A good check is the odor. True Chanterelles have a somewhat fruit like odor that False Chanterelles lack.
My first guess too
But I thought they had a depressed cap?
Maybe these are just young and cap has not sunken.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: paracelsus]
#19001522 - 10/19/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I only know of one speces that I have found growing from really decayed wood and is the winter chantrelle Cantharelllus infundibuliformis. It looks totaly different. They should smell like apricots if they are true chanties. The other thought is some malformed Jackolantern's. You should save some and send it to the University of Wesconsine in La Cross to Tom Volk.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen]
#19001622 - 10/19/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find the gills and cap margin so wrong for H. aurantiaca I'll be blowed if it is. OP if you can take a bunch more shots I will sleep better.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Coen]
#19001630 - 10/19/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Coen said: Ok, interesting. There are still some larger specimens at the place where I found these little guys. I'll go take some in situ photos and harvest them to get a better idea.
Alright, great.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: Joie]
#19001688 - 10/19/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joie, I agree 100% that they look a LOT more like True Chanterelles than False ones.
In this case, habitat outweighs appearance in my mind. They are called false chanterelles because sometimes they can really look like the real thing.
Another good feature (a really definitive one, in this case) would be a microscopic examination of the spores. False chanterelle spores are dextrinoid, and True chanterelle spores are inamyloid. That difference should be pretty obvious. Of course, now we just need for the collection to be in the hands of somebody with a microscope, some Meltzer's, and the knowledge of how to make the check.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: ToxicMan]
#19001746 - 10/19/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could Lugol's solution not be used, and more easily obtainable?
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: canid]
#19001792 - 10/19/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think they're Chants.
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Re: Cantharellus species? [Re: ToxicMan]
#19001849 - 10/19/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ToxicMan said: Joie, I agree 100% that they look a LOT more like True Chanterelles than False ones.
In this case, habitat outweighs appearance in my mind. They are called false chanterelles because sometimes they can really look like the real thing.
Another good feature (a really definitive one, in this case) would be a microscopic examination of the spores. False chanterelle spores are dextrinoid, and True chanterelle spores are inamyloid. That difference should be pretty obvious. Of course, now we just need for the collection to be in the hands of somebody with a microscope, some Meltzer's, and the knowledge of how to make the check.

There is a lesson for me here that is not about chants, because you were saying that in the first place and I was just staring at the shots in disbelief. ty.
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