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MontanaGriz
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Verm all over fruits
#18999739 - 10/19/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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forgive me if this is a stupid question but all my fresh cubes have vermiculite stuck to them and when i try to get it off i end up damaging them. Is there any trick to this or should I just not worry and eat a little verm. Thanks.
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DeadPhan



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i forget who it is on here whos sig is, "verm makes my dookie twinkle" refering i assume to the eating of colonized substrate which ive heard of people doing.
that or the fact that there is some attached to fruits.
either way, im pretty sure your good. as long as its asbestos free which im pretty sure all vermiculite is nowadays.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#18999828 - 10/19/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's good to hear thanks
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Mush4Brains
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If you dry the fruits first, coir/verm comes off much easier once dry.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#18999837 - 10/19/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Verm is safe to consume. (Eating a lot of it can produce the condition known as 'glittershits') To get it off either rinse the mushies in cold water right after picking, or Dry them completely then dust off the dried verm.
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Mush4Brains
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StygianKnight said: Verm is safe to consume. To get it off either rinse the mushies in cold water right after picking, or Dry them completely then dust off the dried verm.
I wouldn't suggest running water over fresh mushrooms.
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MontanaGriz
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that's a great idea I hadn't even thought of rinsing it off Ill try that with my next flush
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StygianKnight
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Mush4Brains said: I wouldn't suggest running water over fresh mushrooms.
Any specific reason why?
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DeadPhan



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no harm in running water over fresh mushrooms at all. however, in my experiences, when the verm is like almost grown over by the mushroom, its alot easier to get off after drying cracker dry and just brushing, flaking off.
water over fresh mushrooms is not an issue though. if youve ever grown outside you would realize this to be so.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#18999874 - 10/19/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MontanaGriz said: that's a great idea I hadn't even thought of rinsing it off Ill try that with my next flush
Please don't rinse your fresh mushrooms.
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Mush4Brains said: I wouldn't suggest running water over fresh mushrooms.
Any specific reason why?
It can lead to rotting and deterioration of the fruit body.
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DeadPhan said: no harm in running water over fresh mushrooms at all.
There can be, and once you figure that out first hand, you won't ever do it again. I'll let stromrider come in and give his take on it too. You can do searches all over the boards by trusted cultivators saying not to rinse your fresh mushrooms with water. You mention outdoor grows... Have you seen some of the rotting that can occur after heavy rains with outdoor grows?
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DeadPhan



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if you are rinsing off just prior to dehydrating, there will be no such rotting. sure, if you get your mushies wet and just let them sit they will rot. however, they will just as well rot if you let them sit and not dry them in so much time, all the same.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#18999917 - 10/19/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do what you want, I guess.
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RogerRabbit said: It doesn't affect potency, but you shouldn't rinse them. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8493948#8493948
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TranscendingLife said: I wouldn't recommend washing fresh fruits off with water, ever. They'll get soggy & nasty.
Just dry them in a dehydrator until cracker dry & brush them off w/ an old toothbrush or your hands.
or just brush the perlite off w/ your hand while they're still wet.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14735930#14735930
Plus my experience, plus the experience of others on the board should tell you that it is unnecessary, and can lower the quality of your fruits. It is easier, and better for your mushrooms, to dry them and then remove any voir/verm on the stipe.
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fair enough. as i said, i would go with just drying and brushing off that way. way more effective i agree.
i had issues with beetles with my outdoor grows at times. i didnt really want the possibilty of dead little beetles in my fruits so i would rinse them out. i personally never noticed any rotting as i would just shake them off and throw right into the dehydrator.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#19000075 - 10/19/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In nature running water over mushies is called rain. Being tropical, they see a lot of it.
Rinsing only causes rot if water is left on the mushies to sit and allow bacterial growth, a quick pat down after is all they need. I don't recommend rinsing fresh mushies that have been sitting for awhile or have been allowed to begin drying as this will cause extreme bluing (which isn't bad just funny/ugly looking).
Speaking of experience I have used both methods to de-verm my fruits, each seemed to have their uses. I normally dust them off after they are dry but have found scraggly side pins de-verm easier with a rinse and then into the dehydrator they go.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: DeadPhan]
#19000077 - 10/19/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mush I think your being a little bit toooooooooooooooooooo damning on this one. RR said, don't wash your mushrooms. TranscendingLife said the same.
At the end of the day washing and dehydrating is not going to do anything but add more time to the dehydration process. Waterlogged mushrooms can start to rot in the wild, but usually you see if after they have already dropped their spores. At this point the fruit body has done what it is designed to do, reproduce.
I sometime worry that we all get wrapped around the axel on the small shit. If RR said something, we all stop and do it his way. This is good because that guy knows his shit and I love his movies. My only point is there is a line you need to draw in the sand about stifling community members creativity. I say, Let them be washed, or eat them with glittershits!,
Either way this is more about the stifling commentary I have notice lately and not washing your mushrooms.
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Re: Verm all over fruits [Re: Sockadin]
#19000115 - 10/19/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't like ugly fruits, and I've found that you aren't going to get verm off with a simple "rinse." You're going to have to use water and force to remove the verm/coir, which will cause excessive bluing.
I'm just giving an opinion here that I have formed through my own experiences plus reading others. No harm, no foul. Rinse/wash your fruits if you want, and if you don't like the outcome, you can always dry them first and brush anything stuck to them off later.
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