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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: smack]
    #18999413 - 10/19/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm excited to see the next election play out, I'm near Harper's riding and the whole city is beginning to go left.




is truedau running for PM?,if he is im voting on him, just because of his grow your own medicinal pot stance


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: smack]
    #18999415 - 10/19/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

exactly.


and honestly, they haven't even been that good on the economic front--despite what patlal seems to believe--remember their pledge to end the deficit by 2014? remember when they had to admit that this goal was no longer feasible (hint: it never was with their economic policies--but it shore made a good election talking point)


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18999423 - 10/19/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
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I'm excited to see the next election play out, I'm near Harper's riding and the whole city is beginning to go left.




is truedau running for PM?,if he is im voting on him, just because of his grow your own medicinal pot stance



Trudeau is going for PM. Not sure what that will do to the Liberal support here though. He's slighted the province before. :snowman:


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18999431 - 10/19/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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exactly.


and honestly, they haven't even been that good on the economic front--despite what patlal seems to believe--remember their pledge to end the deficit by 2014? remember when they had to admit that this goal was no longer feasible (hint: it never was with their economic policies--but it shore made a good election talking point)



I just recall that our highly regulated banks didn't crash due to their regulations, which was a liberal policy.

I don't know much about economics though, nor do I honestly care.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18999438 - 10/19/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
exactly.


and honestly, they haven't even been that good on the economic front--despite what patlal seems to believe--remember their pledge to end the deficit by 2014? remember when they had to admit that this goal was no longer feasible (hint: it never was with their economic policies--but it shore made a good election talking point)




In 2009 he predicted the end of deficit for 2014. It's going to be 2015. I guess he wasn't conservative enough...


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: smack]
    #18999440 - 10/19/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm excited to see the next election play out, I'm near Harper's riding and the whole city is beginning to go left.




is truedau running for PM?,if he is im voting on him, just because of his grow your own medicinal pot stance



Trudeau is going for PM. Not sure what that will do to the Liberal support here though. He's slighted the province before. :snowman:




Trudeau has been all talk.

I haven't heard anything about his platform other than the weed talks.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: qman]
    #18999442 - 10/19/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Canada has those vast tar sands which can yield a low grade crude oil and the EU is hungry for oil. I see cash flow.




That oil is headed to the other direction, China.




Is it? Still I'm sure it's fetching major money. You may wind up with a huge ecological disaster zone up north though when it's all over, though.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Patlal]
    #18999446 - 10/19/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what reason have you to believe another prediction?
and answer my other question :crankey:, why does this possible FTA trump all other harper policies to net him another majority?



or not, i have to leave now anyways :canadian: sorry about that buddy


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18999456 - 10/19/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Patlal]
    #18999468 - 10/19/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I haven't heard anything about his platform other than the weed talks.




i just read an article, he seems to want to help out middle class workers and help lower the unemployment rate of young candians as well as help protect senior pensions and such

except he didnt mention how he was going to do this :confused:


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18999481 - 10/19/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Is it? Still I'm sure it's fetching major money. You may wind up with a huge ecological disaster zone up north though when it's all over, though.




ya but when all the politics happen in ontario, i guess its hard for them to care about the west north


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18999632 - 10/19/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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what reason have you to believe another prediction?
and answer my other question :crankey:, why does this possible FTA trump all other harper policies to net him another majority?



or not, i have to leave now anyways :canadian: sorry about that buddy




Might not be a majority, but Harper is still going to be PM. NDP isn't going anywhere and the liberal only have a sweet talker with no platform. Quebec will go NDP, the West will go conservative and Ontario will be split up.

It's going to be close.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Patlal]
    #18999651 - 10/19/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When is the next election coming anyway?


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: psi]
    #18999688 - 10/19/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

@Shivas: Let me give you more details of how I see things.

5 battle grounds of Canada in order of size:

- Ontario
- Quebec
- Alb/Sask/Man
- BC
- North and maritime

ONTARIO:

Right now it's mostly conservative. But they like the Liberals and they are only going Conservative because the Libs don't have their shit together. I suspect that 2/5 will vote Cons, 2/5 will vote Libs, 1/5 NDP


QUEBEC:

The word Conservative is enough to justify murder. The word Liberal is associated with corruption. That leaves the NDP and it just so happens to be on the left just the way Quebecers like it. I suspect 3/5 will go NDP, 1/5 COnservative, 1/5 Liberal


ALB/SASK/MAN:

The conservative developped the oil sands in alberta and the EU free trade deal just boosted the beef, pork and farming markets which are concentrated in Sask and Man. The NDP has no influence there and the liberals have no plan and the people there aren't the type to be swayed by charisma alone. 4/5 Conservative, the rest will be split up.


BC:

Battleground. I can't say who will win there. It'll most likely split up 33% each.


NORTH AND MARITIME:

Harper has been developping the North and I figure the liberals might take the Maritimes. Maybe the NDP will get a few seats. Again 33% each



So basically, I believe it is just enough for the cons to get a majority or a strong minority.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Patlal]
    #18999900 - 10/19/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

While i agree that popular opinion doesn't really mean a whole lot when predicting election results (especially considering the fact that the conservatives won the last majority with the support of around 12% of eligable voters), I think the 2015 election is going to be a completely different animal than the last two.

The last election was a perfect storm for the liberals, with two successive leaders that the tories were able to cast in an extremely negative light, something that they haven't really been able to achieve with Trudeau.

They also had to contend with a very popular NDP leader in Layton, who drew massive support away from the liberals. He's no longer in the picture (rip Jack Layton), and Tom Mulcair..... well, that beard is just creepy.

All of the above combined with the fact that the Tories have been in power so long that some of the dirt is starting to stick to them. It should be an interesting election, for sure.

All I know is, if Harper gets another majority, I'm the fuck up outta here


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: qman]
    #18999915 - 10/19/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
Canada has those vast tar sands which can yield a low grade crude oil and the EU is hungry for oil. I see cash flow.




That oil is headed to the other direction, China.




And the natural gas to Malaysia


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #18999918 - 10/19/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Patlal, have you been paying attention to Calgary's demographic shift? It's gotten much more liberal recently.


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #18999919 - 10/19/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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All I know is, if Harper gets another majority, I'm getting the fuck up outta here




Where are you gonna go? The US? :lol:


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: smack]
    #18999923 - 10/19/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey Patlal, have you been paying attention to Calgary's demographic shift? It's gotten much more liberal recently.




Link me


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Re: Canada just made a free trade agreement with the EU [Re: Patlal]
    #18999958 - 10/19/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty jealous of those fuckers in Colorado


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