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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18991629 - 10/17/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I consider myself very logical in my thinking process, Im open to many ideas but truly believe few if any.

although I'm athiest and dont believe in alien contact or mystical/ magical forces, when I'm tripping and sometimes days following Ill sometimes get an extremely out of the box idea and then seek to prove or disprove whatever it may be.

David Icke is my go to for conspiracy theories and 'crazy' ideas that hell spend hours talking about.
I think he may be on to something with the Anunnaki though, just not as literally as he speaks of it.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18992698 - 10/17/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Deathcore said:
But God made satan so how nice is that..

God talking to us in our heads is like trolling us because he knew lucifer would fall..

If I was God i'd un-create satan and forgive all human beings.. What came first, the sin or the man? God came first.. designed rules he'd knew people would break... now we must pay...



You allow free will then the decision to sin is on each individual. There is forgiveness, even angels aren't perfect, you should be held accountable for your decisions. We are given all the tools to make the right choices, without being forced into them, we are responsible for our own actions, it's unfortunate you feel blameless in life.

Also this conversation is getting really heady and geared more towards the spirituality and mysticism forum. If it continues to be purely religious discussion I will move this there.




Oh, don't misunderstand me. We will and DO pay for our crimes one way or another. The point is that the payment isn't eternal damnation as some Christians make it out to be. BUT, that doesn't mean eternal damnation IS NOT under the list of possibilities.

Now with that cleared up, we can get back to how ever this thread turns out.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18992740 - 10/17/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What about acid and shrooms being magick? Sorcery much? I have one hit of wow I wanna do but I don't want that to be my portal to hell or something, like it was in the past.... Like that saying

Jesus comes like a thief in the night was the main theme during my first experience with L... Like God was testing me or something...

But I don't wanna do drugs just to get high and waste time, I want an enhanced earthly experience where I can feel nirvana and better my body&mind so when I die I can reach heaven or whatever...

I just want to be on the side of good.. I help people, I step over bugs, I cherish nature and I go outside every day to appreciate the randomness of all things. I stay in shape and im getting stronger every day physically and mentally. I don't make fun of people and I try to teach people the path of enlightenment in a non hypocritical kind of way. I don't boast or try to make people jealous, I don't force knowledge onto people. I learn to ignore negativity whether its other human contact or just random things happening that I don't like or approve of. I turn around and walk the other way.

Even though sometimes I want to get in to a fight just for the sake of dishing out pain and receiving pain; competition. I have never once gotten into a true fight with anyone....ever... But I feel like my suppressed rage will come out one of these years.. Even if my opponent is bigger than me and I know I'll lose the fight. I am human. I think its only natural to be challenged and to not give up. Slowly but surely I imagine it happening. But who knows? I'm not wishing for it per-say but I want to do something in my life where It was all ultimately up to me to win or lose. Like a fight to the death.. a sacrifice.. Destroying a child rapist or murderer, viking style... Just owning somebody for their evil ways. I just want to live and die with a purpose.





That rage you feel is just the fire God put inside you. Don't fear it, but be careful not to channel it into the wrong areas.

I don't know about L, and I distrust the mushroom, but mescaline cactus has given me too much insight into myself for me to say that God did not intend for us to ingest it. Heck, give one taste on a proper aloe plant and you will never call San Pedro bitter again. Cactus is Kosher as far as I know. Every seed bearing plant... Mushrooms don't have seeds now do they...


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: The Centre]
    #18993120 - 10/17/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i like what you say centre... shrooms heal (antibiotics) and there are also edible ones that dont cause you to trip, which still are from spores... so like... it makes you wonder..

there are death caps that can kill you..

but there are also killer plants... ya dig?


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18993140 - 10/17/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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in like just knowing illuminati and black magick type stuff and information is just a second away is insane, but i always just keep it to myself, in the back of my head since I really don't wish to think about it.

Do these thoughts happen to everyone? In my earlier trips it never came up, and from what my friends tell me they haven't gotten similar thoughts, and others I feel just don't like to talk about it for whatever reason.

On a vaguer note, is it bad to look into these type of thoughts, or paranoid/bad-trip thoughts in general from an analytic view?  It's interesting stuff when I'm tripping but is it bad to think of such dark thoughts? its only really come up in my last trip, and I felt like a naughty little tripper trying to figure what it was about, so I didn't.




Yeah, Illuminati BS tweaks me out when I'm tripping. I can't handle to think about that type of shit because it puts me into a negative head space.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Saeis]
    #18993167 - 10/17/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

but how do you not think about it when its in every single aspect of our lives... theres not one thing they don't interfere with..


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18993608 - 10/17/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting thread.

I too read david icke and all sorts of other things going into the occult, illuminati, free masons, esoteric, ancient deities, etc.etc.etc.
Anyhow, every time i have tripped, these thoughts stayed far away and i could have an almost sociable party time while tripping but not this last time,  (not that i expect my trip to be this, i go into trips with no expectations, period).
I recently ate a relatively low dose last month on saturday sept 14th.
The day after friday the 13th.
Due to the great occultism associated with friday the 13th, the rituals taking place that day were placing a miasma in the air, my shroom trip was completely steered/tuned into this energy/vibration in the air.
My trip was hell, death, ritualistic, creepy, pain, suffering, torture, pure evil. just about every sick depraved thing humans are capable of doing was the embodiment of my trip, it was out of my control, i was just being guided on a journey through some creepy carnival/freak show/horror movie, what have you.
I was full on level 4 trippin and i did die and accepted it.
I cant even say the trip was bad though, as i feel it has made my love more pure or stronger or more passionate.
The trip in a nutshell was pure evil.
I could type a novel on the trip, it lasted 11 -/+ hours and it showed me so many disturbing different things, time was a figment of the imagination, it didn't exist, at least not in the eternity purgatory/limbo i was in.
My GF tripped with me and her trip was identical to mine, in fact we were reading each others minds at one point, as if our minds merged and became one.
I don't want to go into a full on trip report here, but if i did it would be really, really, really, long.
This was off just 1.7g of my homegrown dried ecuador cubensis.
I am still trying to absorb this all and integrate it over a month later, and i also notice very mild HPPD effects even now.
Also when i smoke weed it kinda takes on the feel of this last trip.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
    #18993619 - 10/17/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My insecurities which eat me alive during tripping, the more intense the trip, the worse


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18993764 - 10/18/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My insecurities which eat me alive during tripping, the more intense the trip, the worse




This. ^

Though some of my trips have helped me come to terms with myself


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Saeis]
    #18993786 - 10/18/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's why I like mescaline so much. It helps me deal with problems


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18993946 - 10/18/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Man.  I have some negative thoughts once in a while when I'm tripping, but it's more about my own problems and what I need to fix about my personality.

I guess that's a perk of not really having solid beliefs.  There could be a God.  There could be Illuminati.  Is there any way I could know for sure?  No.  So it doesn't bother me.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18996552 - 10/18/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but how do you not think about it when its in every single aspect of our lives... theres not one thing they don't interfere with..




I do not believe in the illuminati. I might as well fear the boogey man.
I do however fear and avoid the police while tripping. I don't fear them busting in my house or anything irrational though.
I have problem stopping thoughts about how pointless life seems in the capitalist dream. Go to work>buy house>die. Seems like a waste really. I see why so many people turned on and dropped out. While tripping I was watching a train of commuters pass by and I thought the Jews on the cattle car in Germany looked happier. I have to be careful I don't take a bunch of acid and decide to quit my job follow a jam band around or live on a commune or something. Are there still free love communes? Never mind I have a car to pay for and a cat to feed.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18996569 - 10/18/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Some amount of capitalism is unfortunately necessary in society due in part to resources being scarce


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18996645 - 10/18/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My answer:Clowns,demons,trains and of course Elves

I can safely say I HAVE NEVER been even thinking about the illuminati while tripping.My Great Grandpa was a Grand Master of the Nor Cal Freemasons for a long time in the 20's & 30's.Other then networking for business and helping each other in the community,the free masons aren't all that mysterious.

That being said I do think there IS a select elite group in America but I Dont give two shits:poop:


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #18996702 - 10/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My answer:Clowns,demons,trains and of course Elves

I can safely say I HAVE NEVER been even thinking about the illuminati while tripping.My Great Grandpa was a Grand Master of the Nor Cal Freemasons for a long time in the 20's & 30's.Other then networking for business and helping each other in the community,the free masons aren't all that mysterious.

That being said I do think there IS a select elite group in America but I Dont give two shits:poop:



Do your research into freemasons,
just because you have a freemason family member does not conclude you or even your family member really even knows what is taking place at higher levels of their hierarchy, its all about ranks within the order, like a modern military.
The freemasons are the knights Templar. 
Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.
Also its not just the american elite but the entire world elite, aka globalists.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
    #18996895 - 10/18/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In Freemasonry a Grand Master is the leader of the lodges within his Masonic jurisdiction. He presides over a Grand Lodge, and has certain rights in the constituent lodges that form his jurisdiction.
Just as the Worshipful Master of a lodge annually appoints lodge officers to assist him, so the Grand Master of each Grand Lodge annually appoints grand lodge officers to assist him in his work. Grand Lodges often elect or appoint Deputy Grand Masters who can act on behalf of the Grand Master when he is unable to do so. In English Freemasonry, where a member of the Royal Family is often the Grand Master, he may also appoint a Pro Grand Master to deputise for him when he is involved in affairs of State. The Pro Grand Master has no function when the Grand Master is present, and is distinct from the Deputy Grand Master.
There are two distinct traditions in connection with the office of Grand Master. Generally speaking the European practice is for the same Grand Master to be re-elected for several consecutive years, maybe even several decades, whilst in other countries a Grand Master serves a set term of only one to three years, and then retires.
The first unambiguously recorded Grand Master was Anthony Sayer, elected as the first Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England in 1717. There are earlier references to Grand Masters (for example, the architect Christopher Wren), but there is no unambiguous proof that the term is used in its current sense in those contexts (the references may refer to operative stonemasonry).
In several European countries, the position of Grand Master has often been held by members of royal families or the high nobility. In some Protestant northern European countries, the position was held by the King for a long time. In England and Wales, the current Grand Master is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.
The same title is used for the leader of masonic jurisdictions for women, where there is a general preference for the use of historical terms, rather than contrived female versions

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do his research chump.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #18996978 - 10/18/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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In Freemasonry a Grand Master is the leader of the lodges within his Masonic jurisdiction. He presides over a Grand Lodge, and has certain rights in the constituent lodges that form his jurisdiction.
Just as the Worshipful Master of a lodge annually appoints lodge officers to assist him, so the Grand Master of each Grand Lodge annually appoints grand lodge officers to assist him in his work. Grand Lodges often elect or appoint Deputy Grand Masters who can act on behalf of the Grand Master when he is unable to do so. In English Freemasonry, where a member of the Royal Family is often the Grand Master, he may also appoint a Pro Grand Master to deputise for him when he is involved in affairs of State. The Pro Grand Master has no function when the Grand Master is present, and is distinct from the Deputy Grand Master.
There are two distinct traditions in connection with the office of Grand Master. Generally speaking the European practice is for the same Grand Master to be re-elected for several consecutive years, maybe even several decades, whilst in other countries a Grand Master serves a set term of only one to three years, and then retires.
The first unambiguously recorded Grand Master was Anthony Sayer, elected as the first Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England in 1717. There are earlier references to Grand Masters (for example, the architect Christopher Wren), but there is no unambiguous proof that the term is used in its current sense in those contexts (the references may refer to operative stonemasonry).
In several European countries, the position of Grand Master has often been held by members of royal families or the high nobility. In some Protestant northern European countries, the position was held by the King for a long time. In England and Wales, the current Grand Master is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.
The same title is used for the leader of masonic jurisdictions for women, where there is a general preference for the use of historical terms, rather than contrived female versions

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do his research chump.



Nice copy and paste from wikipedia chump.
lol you're fully discredited.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
    #18997011 - 10/18/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Xtradimensional said :Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.

I thought You said there's no such thing as a grand master, I spent one second online find this AND I'm looking at a portrait of him right now commemorating his 25th anniversary and his promotion to grand master of the lodge.

You're obviously wrong about this and I really think you're just getting butt hurt because you weren't as educated on this as me


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18997018 - 10/18/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the police, advocates against drugs, not having necessities/needing to drive

But generally speaking, I think any thought is OK on a trip. If it was a negative thought, it probably should be thought out, or at least dismissed/denied/acknowledged in some manner besides thinking "why am I thinking about this?" Because you probably want to know why

I don't think illuminati has much more to do than politics, and aliens much more to do than just another creature, but when you get into spirituality it's a whole other ball game. That's more about yourself than anything else - you basically discover what it is you ought to know.


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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #18997030 - 10/18/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.

I thought You said there's no such thing as a grand master, I spent one second online find this AND I'm looking at a portrait of him right now commemorating his 25th anniversary and his promotion to grand master of the lodge.

You're obviously wrong about this and I really think you're just getting butt hurt because you weren't as educated on this as me



You're right, you got mad copy and paste skills o' educated one.:dunce:


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