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First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba)
    #18955983 - 10/09/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hi everyone, this is my first post. Thanks to all of you for the endless vault of useful information and techniques, I wouldn't have been able to get started without you.

I have tried to do my research in every aspect of cultivation for my purposes, but I bought a PE spore syringe before digging deep enough to find that PE isn't recommended for beginners. But I went ahead and inoculated 10 BRF jars (with a verm layer on top) anyway. I put four holes in each lid and put about 1/4 cc into each hole. Colonization has only occurred in 5 of those 10 jars, and from what I have read I believe my mistake to be injecting too little of a low-spore solution.

I inoculated on 9/7, and by 9/30 the 5 jars were about 20-60% colonized (see first picture). Today I would say they are somewhere between 50 and 75% colonized (2nd picture). This process has been much slower than I had expected/hoped. I would be worried, but there is no sign of contamination in any of the colonizing jars. Of the remaining 5 unsuccessful jars only one developed a blue/green mold of some kind.

So I decided to try again for better yields and quicker colonization with another 6 jars. This time I used Brazil Corumba. The only thing about this second order was that the syringe said only "Brazil # 12", so I don't know if it is just Brazil or Brazil Corumba. I'm sure it doesn't matter but I like to know I am getting what I order.

Anyway Those were inoculated 3 days ago and are already showing very slight growth. I'll be interested to see how fast they colonize, and I'll post more pictures as they do. Once I birth the cakes I plan to dunk 'em for a day at room temperature and roll 'em in vermiculite. I did some research on bulk substrates and casing, but this time around I think I'll just let the cakes fruit. I am about to set up my fruiting container, and I'm thinking a shotgun container with perlite in the bottom.

Well hopefully all goes well with the rest of this experiment, I really look forward to reading any suggestions or tips you all might have. Home cultivation is something I have dreamed of for a while, but never made the effort to learn how until recently. So far I am loving this hobby, to me fungi are mystical and fascinating in just about every way. Hats off to you my friends, thanks again for the help.



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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #18956065 - 10/09/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #18996934 - 10/18/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here are the current pictures: the PE are most of the way there, the bottom is colonized in all but two. The only thing is that the mycelium isn't reaching the top of the substrate. Clearly progress is slow overall with these jars, I was considering turning them upside down but I'll probably wait a little while until I resort to that. As you can see, the newly inoculated are progressing nicely. Half are colonizing from all four inoculation points, and the other half are from three.



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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #18996945 - 10/18/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Take the vendors name out. Its against the rules!!!!!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: Smeagol]
    #18997458 - 10/18/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like Smeagol said you have to take the vendors name off. They sell you spores for study under microscopes on slides and so fourth only. I see your kinda new so welcome and use the edit button to the right above your post to take the vendors name off. Good luck make yourself a shotgun fruiting chamber,follow whatever tek your using verbatim and post some pics of your fruits.


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: spaceman101]
    #18999639 - 10/19/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the heads up


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19063222 - 10/31/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well I decided the P.E. cakes were probably fully colonized (or at least as much as they were going to be) and I birthed 3 of them. The other two aren't quite done. The 3 I birthed were put into separate ziplock bags that had never been opened before. I ground them up by hand from the outside of the bag.

Last night I steam sterilized a couple containers of the bulk substrate I'm going to use. I did about a 60% coir and 40% verm mix. Not sure if steam sterilizing is the way to go at this step, but from what I read it is ok. I tried to keep it hot but below boiling, and cooked them for about 2-3 hours.

After grounding the cakes into pieces less than 1cm across or so, I added about 3 cups to each bag (for a 1:3 ratio). I shook the bags around and got the cakes well mixed with the new substrate, then placed them in little black trays and covered with aluminum foil. I poked about 8 holes in each tray's foil, and put in the closet. In a week or so I'll check on them.

Hopefully the other PE jars will be ready to start fruiting when the bulk trays are, if not before. The Brazil jars are doing great, all are colonizing and each jar is at somewhere between 60-80% colonized.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I started 3 jars of WBS about 6 days ago. I haven't seen any growth yet, but I'll wait another week or so before giving up on those.

As always, thanks for any input or suggestions. I'll post more pictures soon!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19111143 - 11/09/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am having some trouble figuring out whether my trays are fully colonized or not. I'm using only coir/verm, and they look like this:


I have been researching, but I can't seem to find a satisfying answer. Any help? :cheers:


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19111188 - 11/09/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fruit it!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: cronicr]
    #19111548 - 11/09/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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cronicr said:
Fruit it!



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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: PussyFart]
    #19125987 - 11/12/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here they are in the sgfc:



Notice the lil' gimpy cakes on the end. That cake kinda fell apart into two major pieces so I thought I would try fruiting both. We'll see what happens.

I put 'em in about 3 days ago (4 days ago for the cakes) and have been misting 3-4x/day, and fanning about 5-6x/day. I read that fae/evaporation is the main pinning trigger so I thought it would make sense to fan more than I mist. Any problems with this logic? I don't see any pins yet, I'm anxiously awaiting!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19126020 - 11/12/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh one more thing I wanted some advice on. My Brazil cakes are all fully colonized, and I understand that consolidation is unnecessary if I am spawning them to bulk. I plan on spawning all the Brazil cakes.

Unfortunately, I am going out of town in 10 days for a little over a week. I would spawn them now, but I would be leaving right around the time they would start fruiting. My options as I see it:

1. consolidate for a week in the jars anyway, then leave in bulk trays for about 2 weeks before fruiting

2. leave in jars for another 3 weeks

3. spawn now, and leave in trays for almost 3 weeks before fruiting

4. spawn now, start fruiting just before I leave, and put my sgfc in the trunk of my car so I can tend to it while I'm gone (anyone done this?)

Thanks for the advice!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19126196 - 11/12/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

spawn a couple days before you leave, i just spawned  a four month old grain jar tat still colonized in ten days:thumbup:


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: cronicr]
    #19127245 - 11/12/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

TAKE THE NAME OF THE VENDOR WHERE YOU GOT YOUR SUPPLIES FROM OUT OF YOUR POST. They could get in trouble if the government could somehow prove they knew you were using their products for more than microscopic purposes. Not only are you putting yourself and the vendor at risk but possibility making it even more difficult for everyone to purchase spores for our legal purposes. Thanks. Sorry for mentioning this again but I noticed you have posted since the first person posted it. And to me this is a very important rule to not use vendor names.


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: shroomnub4u]
    #19127433 - 11/12/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I could have sworn I edited it out already but I just did again. Thanks for pointing that out, I don't want to unintentionally screw anyone over.


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19145218 - 11/16/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

]Hey I checked on my Brazil jars today, they have been consolidating in my closet. I noticed some stuff, which I'll just show instead of describe:


Any idea what the spots on the first jar or the slimy kinda stuff on the second jar?

Thanks friends!


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19145322 - 11/16/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

first jar looks like pinning. since it is way too early to be pinning it's probably contamed. though it's kinda strange how the pins or knots are in the uncolonized part of the jar.
slimy usually means bacteria. milky white stuff or slimy gross stuff.
it might just be metabolites or "myc piss", can't see it to well as it looks kinda out of focus.
I'm drinking though, maybe someone else sees things differently..


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: spacechildo]
    #19145374 - 11/16/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ya I was worried it might be contams on the first one. Its hard to see in the picture, but the lil' pins are all connected to each other and to the colonized part by little hyphae. I did forget to mention that the jar with pins has been sitting close to the light for my sgfc, so I guess its been getting a healthy 12/12 dose of light. The side facing the light is the side with the pins, maybe that's the cause?

I think the picture is a little out of focus but hopefully the myc piss is not a problem. :cheers: thanks buddy


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19145382 - 11/16/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The side facing the light is the side with the pins, maybe that's the cause?



No, you have contams....sorry.


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Re: First Grow (PE and Brazil Corumba) [Re: mycology101]
    #19145422 - 11/16/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just misted/fanned my cakes and trays, and noticed that two of the trays were sitting in water. Not completely submerged, but maybe 1/3 or 1/2 in sitting water. I poked some drainage holes in the bottoms of the trays (probably should have done that earlier). But its been about a week since I put these guys in, and no pinning yet. Some knotting maybe on the trays.

I have looked at lots of grow logs and such, but I can't decide whether its better to fruit my mini-bulks in the trays (to prevent side pinning), or to fruit them open to the air on all sides except the bottom. Thanks for the help, someday I'll manage to keep a hold on all this knowledge!
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