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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Ballerium]
    #18996648 - 10/18/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It just makes sense to me; eating less pesticides: http://www.mindfully.org/Food/Organic-Less-Pesticides8may02.htm

An interesting look at the issue of Nutrients:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-organic-a-scam-nutrient-differences/#axzz2i7Rr8YB7

"Does Organic Produce Have More Nutrients?"


When reading this report from Life Extension Magazine, note footmarks 15-19 (under "Other Factors Drain Nutrients"): http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/sep2005_report_veggies_01.htm

"Vitamin-less Vegetables"


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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Edited by flickedbic (10/18/13 05:47 PM)


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18996669 - 10/18/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I still prefer the taste of whatever these "organic" fruits and veggies are. They definitely seem to have more flavor. But I can't afford all organic all the time, so I try not to lose sleep over it. :shrug:


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Ballerium]
    #18996743 - 10/18/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Simply print out/make a list of foods that accumulate pesticide most vs. those where organic doesn't matter; and choose how you buy accordingly.

http://realmomrealliferealfood.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/when-and-why-to-buy-organic/

Fruit and Veg Specific (to Buy Organic):

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1.Nectarines – 97.3% of nectarines sampled were found to contain pesticides.
2.Celery – 94.5% of celery sampled were found to contain pesticides.
3.Pears – 94.4% of pears sampled were found to contain pesticides.
4.Peaches – 93.7% of peaches sampled were found to contain pesticides.
5.Apples – 91% of apples sampled were found to contain pesticides.
6.Cherries – 91% of cherries sampled were found to contain pesticides.
7.Strawberries – 90% of strawberries sampled were found to contain pesticides.
8.Imported Grapes – 86% of imported grapes (i.e. Chile) sampled were found to contain pesticides.
9.Spinach – 83.4% of spinach sampled were found to contain pesticides.
10.Potatoes – 79.3% of potatoes sampled were found to contain pesticides.
11.Bell Peppers – 68% of bell peppers sampled were found to contain pesticides.
12.Red Raspberries – 59% of red raspberries sampled were found to contain pesticides.




http://gourmetfood.about.com/od/slowfoodorganiclocal/a/organicproduce_2.htm


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (10/18/13 06:15 PM)


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18996815 - 10/18/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey that is very helpful, thanks! :sun:


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Ballerium]
    #18996856 - 10/18/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i bought a squash in the store, and it smelt kinda bad, i picked one from my property and it smelt like pumpkin goodness, although it was about half the size

not sure if this contributed, but,  I C@N TYPE  YAAAAYYY!!!1 8


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18997309 - 10/18/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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abltsandwich said:
your all eating poisons if its not organic



You aren't going to die any quicker eating inorganic stuff. If our lifespans were much longer than it could be a significant difference, relative to our lifespan now.

Cancer don't care what you eat


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: pcplease]
    #18997401 - 10/18/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tell that to Broccoli, for example. :smile:

Cancer cares.


Prevention > Cure

But food also works in treatment: http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20110311/brocolli-may-help-fight-cancer-growth


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (10/18/13 08:39 PM)


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18997426 - 10/18/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Preventing cancer doesn't work too well.. but yes cruciferous vegetables are really high in antioxidants.
Genetics play the biggest role, but it's still entirely a crap-shoot.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: pcplease] * 7
    #18997745 - 10/18/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18998028 - 10/18/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.



I enjoy the meat of silicon based life forms.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18998035 - 10/18/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:awesomenod:


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18998099 - 10/19/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.



Quote:

mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.




. . . with added man made mystery chems, regardless I still do not eat all organic, but there IS a noticable diff. in taste/quality


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: cez]
    #18998222 - 10/19/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My views are that fruit/vegetables are really fucking good for the body. I dont eat organic, but do eat a decent amount of fruits/veggies, and I feel awesome!! I really think if you were to put both normal fruits/veggies and organic on a 1-10 health scale it would look something like this:

organic fruits: 9.87
normal fruits: 9.82



bottom line: theyre both super good for you.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18998253 - 10/19/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
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mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.



Quote:

mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.




. . . with added man made mystery chems, regardless I still do not eat all organic, but there IS a noticable diff. in taste/quality



I think the difference in taste/texture is primarily due to genetics. In some cases taste and flavour are compromised for extended shelf-life. The FlavrSavr tomatoes have their polygalacturonase gene fucked up by antisense sequences which preserves the integrity of cells walls but also fails to release its full flavour spectrum.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18998317 - 10/19/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mellowparty said:
Only my water and salt are inorganic. Everything else I eat has carbon and is therefore organic.



:whathesaid:


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18998321 - 10/19/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:

I think the difference in taste/texture is primarily due to genetics. In some cases taste and flavour are compromised for extended shelf-life. The FlavrSavr tomatoes have their polygalacturonase gene fucked up by antisense sequences which preserves the integrity of cells walls but also fails to release its full flavour spectrum.




I like the taste of purple heirloom tomatoes.:awesomenod:


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Mr. Material]
    #18998517 - 10/19/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My friend's doctor openly admitted to him that the cause of his illness is most likely down to the way his body is reacting to pesticides in the food.

Anyway, it's hard to know who to believe. The pesticide companies say their product is perfectly safe and breaks down in the environment into safe, inert substances. Then there are the claims from farmers with heavy usage of those pesticides of their animals failing to reproduce and having bizarre phantom pregnancies/births, as well as studies done to test this. I'm unaware of whether or not the results have been released yet. I would be curious to find out though.

I don't know about most of the world but over here organic doesn't mean non-gmo, it just means no pesticides or artificial additives and treatments. I would like it to mean the same thing as non-gmo for the same reason as above. There's too much dispute over whether or not is safe. I'd feel better if the technology was perfected more before it starts getting into the food chain.

The problem with GMO is that the results are largely unpredictable. Plants can produce new exotic chemicals that were not intended for, how these will affect humans remains to be seen. The effects might not be detectable for decades. I'd rather not be one of the guinea pigs.

I have noticed even over the past decade a change to the way food tastes, and some foods are inedible for me now because they cause stomach upsets, foods I used to be able to eat. Oranges and nectarines are the worst culprits. They taste sour yet lack sweetness or flavour, some taste like rancid water. Then my abdomen swells like an egg and sometimes I'm outright sick (I don't eat them any more). However if I eat an organic one it'll usually taste like an orange and not cause any problems, that to me is enough personal evidence that there is a difference. I have no idea if it's pesticides or if it's genetic modification but some of those standard suparmarket oranges are nothing like how they should be.

I can't always afford organic but I'll go for it when I can until GMO technology is more advanced and better understood.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Eukaryote11] * 1
    #18998571 - 10/19/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love how people only care about organic food as long as it effects them directly. It's an environmental issue, not a health or taste issue.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Eukaryote11]
    #18998579 - 10/19/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My friend's doctor openly admitted to him that the cause of his illness is most likely down to the way his body is reacting to pesticides in the food.




And how did the doctor come to this conclusion? Tracing back the exact cause of an illness can be really tricky.


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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: pcplease] * 1
    #18998599 - 10/19/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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pcplease said:
Yup. My local produce is cheaper than bulk in the grocery store/WalMart, and the meats cheaper too.
As well as tasting 100x better, which is what really counts for me.




Truth , there are a series of community gardens that supply a local organic stand at my favorite market ! Actually several . The meat I eat , is grass fed , Amish raised and slaughtered in a family owned slaughter house just south of me . $12 for 3 pounds of top sirloin , individually rapped by the pound to be frozen and used as needed .

$20 will get me more organic veggies/fruits then I can comfortably carry

We usually spend about $40 to $60 bucks on organic veggies alone ever two weeks. Reason being is because the whole neighborhood and all my friends/family come over nightly for my wife and I's cooking . I believe that attests to the difference in quality of taste , at the very least.

Personally having at one time in my life eaten so much pizza my legs stopped working ( potassium deficiency ) . I can say without a doubt . I have more energy from my balanced organic diet , then when I ate a non organic diet of basically the same stuff !

Overall I'm more awake , I have a seemingly higher tolerance for labor , My mood is noticeably better . I've been eating strictly organic for 3 months now and I've lost 20Lbs !!!

The wife and I just pick a new organic vegetable that we've never cooked before, and is in season at the time . We view it as an exciting challenge to our cooking ability. Basically its fun eating/cooking something new on a weekly basis .

Cut out the bs your putting into your body and you won't regret it . I mean how could you ? That would be like trying to claim commercial grade weed is the same as dank nuggetry .


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