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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995495 - 10/18/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You've clearly never flown a plane, dude.  I have...many times.  I started flying when I was 16...over 25 years ago.

The hard part about flying is landing.  Everything else is pretty basic.  I'd have a tough time jumping into a 757 and flying it well, but I could probably figure out how to get it off the ground and back on the ground safely.  The hardest part would be figuring out where the switches are...

Of course, they knew where the switches were because they studied that ahead of time.  Since the plane was already in the air, the only switches they needed were the transponder and the autopilot...to turn both off.  They didn't need to know how to lower the gear, or the flaps, or anything else, really. 

Yoke, throttle, and pedals...and they didn't even really need the pedals to crash the plane into the pentagon.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995504 - 10/18/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You've clearly never flown a plane, dude.  I have...many times.  I started flying when I was 16...over 25 years ago.

The hard part about flying is landing.  Everything else is pretty basic.  I'd have a tough time jumping into a 757 and flying it well, but I could probably figure out how to get it off the ground and back on the ground safely.  The hardest part would be figuring out where the switches are...

Of course, they knew where the switches were because they studied that ahead of time.  Since the plane was already in the air, the only switches they needed were the transponder and the autopilot...to turn both off.  They didn't need to know how to lower the gear, or the flaps, or anything else, really. 

Yoke, throttle, and pedals...and they didn't even really need the pedals to crash the plane into the pentagon.




You've seen the conspiracy videos describing the plunge that had to occur to avoid all the poles and hit whatsoever right?


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995513 - 10/18/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah...I've seen all of that.  Of course, it's founded on lies.  The plane took out poles on its way in.




In addition, I've looked at the data from the recorder.  It's all consistent with a poor pilot coming in too fast and high...then circling to lose altitude...and then hitting the ground and sliding into the pentagon.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995542 - 10/18/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah...I've seen all of that.  Of course, it's founded on lies.  The plane took out poles on its way in.




In addition, I've looked at the data from the recorder.  It's all consistent with a poor pilot coming in too fast and high...then circling to lose altitude...and then hitting the ground and sliding into the pentagon.




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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995561 - 10/18/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The biggest problem with these conspiracy videos is that they leave out really important details, or they misrepresent facts. 

I've spent hundreds, if not thousands, of hours going over conspiracy sites and watching videos, reading reports, etc.  I've really tried to find solid evidence of the "inside job" theories.  The more I look, the less those theories make sense, and the more the official story makes sense.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995571 - 10/18/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The biggest problem with these conspiracy videos is that they leave out really important details, or they misrepresent facts. 

I've spent hundreds, if not thousands, of hours going over conspiracy sites and watching videos, reading reports, etc.  I've really tried to find solid evidence of the "inside job" theories.  The more I look, the less those theories make sense, and the more the official story makes sense.




"In Plane Sight" was a goody, and the primary piece of work I would advertise to people willing to watch.

I agree though watching 99 percent of the opinionated and dramatic works is worse than listening to a bieber album


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995587 - 10/18/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I watched "In Plane Sight" and "Loose Change" when they first came out.  Both are full of misrepresentations and outright lies.  I originally bought the "truther" theories, too.  After looking into them more deeply, I had to admit that I was wrong and accept that the official story is a close approximation of what actually happened.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995618 - 10/18/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I watched "In Plane Sight" and "Loose Change" when they first came out.  Both are full of misrepresentations and outright lies.  I originally bought the "truther" theories, too.  After looking into them more deeply, I had to admit that I was wrong and accept that the official story is a close approximation of what actually happened.




To each their own, I look at how the gov allowed pearl harbor to happen when Hawaiian lookouts were pressing to inform the US and we ignored them. When I look at 911 I see at the very least, a government seeing opportunity in allowing the attacks.

The way the oil companies and Halliburton swooped in with their own opportunity to the Iraqi oil fields and wreckage... You can see why I have the opinion I do.

As for evidence, so many years later its impossible to be sure of any of it or the lack of it.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995662 - 10/18/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That certain corporate and political interests benefitted from 9/11 is undeniable.  It's a bit of a leap of logic, however, to claim that as evidence that those interests planned and carried out the attacks.

Whenever tragedy strikes, there will be a line of people looking to find a way to cash in on it....Whether it be in money or additional power.

For me, it comes down to some simple facts.  Al Qaeda said they were going to attack.  An attack happened.  Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.  On top of that, they attacked us elsewhere in the world.  I think it's pretty clear who attacked us on 9/11.

The notion that the administration knew and allowed it to happen is interesting, but it's certainly not necessary to explain the events of that day.  Incompetence is a much more likely explanation than intent.  I'm always open to the intent argument, but I just haven't seen anything to support it yet.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995711 - 10/18/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That certain corporate and political interests benefitted from 9/11 is undeniable.  It's a bit of a leap of logic, however, to claim that as evidence that those interests planned and carried out the attacks.

Whenever tragedy strikes, there will be a line of people looking to find a way to cash in on it....Whether it be in money or additional power.

For me, it comes down to some simple facts.  Al Qaeda said they were going to attack.  An attack happened.  Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.  On top of that, they attacked us elsewhere in the world.  I think it's pretty clear who attacked us on 9/11.

The notion that the administration knew and allowed it to happen is interesting, but it's certainly not necessary to explain the events of that day.  Incompetence is a much more likely explanation than intent.  I'm always open to the intent argument, but I just haven't seen anything to support it yet.




Osama never once confessed. If you're going to then post the supposed confession tape remember that it is a completely different format than any of the others and simply doesnt hold up.

In 1999 the gov acknowledged that we were facing an oil crisis in the next 5 years and Cheneys people suggested attacking Iraq. fast forward and we are storming the middle east with Cheneys contract company rebuilding right behind.

Leap of faith yes, but this is a part of where my own conclusions come from.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995712 - 10/18/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no difference its an illusion.the country is run by one group and wants you to believe politicians are different from eachother giving the illusion you have a choice, right or left they're just puppets to entertain you and give you hope, while behind the scenes the elites call the shots.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18995845 - 10/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know which "confession tape" you mean, but there are tons of statements from Al Qaeda operatives and leaders wherein they either claim responsibility or warn of further attacks of similar nature.

I suspect that you've latched on to one specific video that has allegedly been shown to have "inconsistencies."  The bottom line, however, is that none of it rests on one tape or one bit of evidence.  There is a mountain of evidence pointing to Al Qaeda, and casting doubt on the authenticity/credibility of one or a few pieces of it doesn't do anything to support an "inside job" theory....one has to have actual evidence that supports the inside job theory.  So far, none has been presented.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18995857 - 10/18/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know which "confession tape" you mean, but there are tons of statements from Al Qaeda operatives and leaders wherein they either claim responsibility or warn of further attacks of similar nature.

I suspect that you've latched on to one specific video that has allegedly been shown to have "inconsistencies."  The bottom line, however, is that none of it rests on one tape or one bit of evidence.  There is a mountain of evidence pointing to Al Qaeda, and casting doubt on the authenticity/credibility of one or a few pieces of it doesn't do anything to support an "inside job" theory....one has to have actual evidence that supports the inside job theory.  So far, none has been presented.




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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18996256 - 10/18/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That certain corporate and political interests benefitted from 9/11 is undeniable.  It's a bit of a leap of logic, however, to claim that as evidence that those interests planned and carried out the attacks.

Whenever tragedy strikes, there will be a line of people looking to find a way to cash in on it....Whether it be in money or additional power.

For me, it comes down to some simple facts.  Al Qaeda said they were going to attack.  An attack happened.  Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.  On top of that, they attacked us elsewhere in the world.  I think it's pretty clear who attacked us on 9/11.

The notion that the administration knew and allowed it to happen is interesting, but it's certainly not necessary to explain the events of that day.  Incompetence is a much more likely explanation than intent.  I'm always open to the intent argument, but I just haven't seen anything to support it yet.




Al Qaeda said they were going to attack, but who runs Al Qaeda who runs Osama Bin Laden the CIA agent Tim Osman, who runs Al Waki the Al Qaeda leader and cleric and said mastermind of 9/11, the man that was caught at the Pentagon for secret meetings. Al Qaeda or better known Al CIA-duh is completely a CIA run organization Al Qaeda literally translate into "The Database" 

9/11 was a an inside job run by Al Qaeda aka Tim Osman and the CIA, the proof is undeniable, but if your not willing to hear the truth, you will be arguing and pretending your a little government lawyer trying to win there trail for them as they run all the prostitution, drug, prison, military, genetically modified organism rings. They run it all while you try to fight for the government, instead of the American people


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18996284 - 10/18/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You fell for the Tim Osman story:burke:

Seriously, you need to get on a dopamine antagonist asap.


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18996286 - 10/18/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That certain corporate and political interests benefitted from 9/11 is undeniable.  It's a bit of a leap of logic, however, to claim that as evidence that those interests planned and carried out the attacks.

Whenever tragedy strikes, there will be a line of people looking to find a way to cash in on it....Whether it be in money or additional power.

For me, it comes down to some simple facts.  Al Qaeda said they were going to attack.  An attack happened.  Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.  On top of that, they attacked us elsewhere in the world.  I think it's pretty clear who attacked us on 9/11.

The notion that the administration knew and allowed it to happen is interesting, but it's certainly not necessary to explain the events of that day.  Incompetence is a much more likely explanation than intent.  I'm always open to the intent argument, but I just haven't seen anything to support it yet.




Al Qaeda said they were going to attack, but who runs Al Qaeda who runs Osama Bin Laden the CIA agent Tim Osman, who runs Al Waki the Al Qaeda leader and cleric and said mastermind of 9/11, the man that was caught at the Pentagon for secret meetings. Al Qaeda or better known Al CIA-duh is completely a CIA run organization Al Qaeda literally translate into "The Database" 

9/11 was a an inside job run by Al Qaeda aka Tim Osman and the CIA, the proof is undeniable, but if your not willing to hear the truth, you will be arguing and pretending your a little government lawyer trying to win there trail for them as they run all the prostitution, drug, prison, military, genetically modified organism rings. They run it all while you try to fight for the government, instead of the American people




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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
    #18996448 - 10/18/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You fell for the Tim Osman story:burke:

Seriously, you need to get on a dopamine antagonist asap.




LOL are you serious hahaha, you don't know who created AL Qaeda?? HAHAHAHA  That is almost pretty common knowledge, and it's also common knowledge American was caught arming Al Qaeda in Syria to start a war, and that is mainstream media talking LOL not any sort of inside knowledge


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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18996453 - 10/18/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's the dopamine talking, bro.  You've heard a little truth mixed in with a bunch of conspiracy nutter nonsense, and you've accepted it.  The reason you have is that your brain chemistry makes you see patterns where none exist. 

It must be exhausting, kid...seriously...If you get on some meds, you will be much, much happier.


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    #18996461 - 10/18/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You fell for the Tim Osman story:burke:

Seriously, you need to get on a dopamine antagonist asap.




LOL are you serious hahaha, you don't know who created AL Qaeda?? HAHAHAHA  That is almost pretty common knowledge, and it's also common knowledge American was caught arming Al Qaeda in Syria to start a war, and that is mainstream media talking LOL not any sort of inside knowledge




Al Qaeda was created by Hitler. They never found him after WW2 because he had already been loaded on to an aircraft flown by UN officials to the middle east to inspire another war against the Jews, this time using Muslims!!!

WW2,2.

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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18996473 - 10/18/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hitler was a government agent, bro.  He was actually Charlie Chaplin:



You never saw them in the same room....

Chaplin was hired by the U.S. Government to form the Nazi party so that the Holocaust would happen, giving the jews an excuse to get a homeland which would only piss off the muslims, so that eventually, the illuminati could bring down the WTC and blame it on muslims...

You have to understand...these people have it all planned out, bro.


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