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ID -- PNW cyan?
    #18995671 - 10/18/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey,
  My first round at this, could someone take a look at the dried samples and ensure they aren't galerina?

Habitat:
Wood Chips

Gills:
adnate, yellow or brownish, blacking with handling

Stem:
white fibrous, bruising blue/black

Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.

Spore print color:
seems to be blacking purple, but difficult to tell

Bruising:
stem bruises black or very dark blue

Other information:
photos attached, have dried only



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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18995744 - 10/18/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of shrub was this?



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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: paracelsus]
    #18995756 - 10/18/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

point taken.

It appear galerina max out at 250 ug / wet gram for amatoxin.  Lethal dose is 0.1 mg / kg.  For a normal person thats about 7 mg.  Any ideas what say, 0.01 mg / kg would do to a person, i.e. about 0.5 g galerina?


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18995795 - 10/18/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No problema ,At least you filled out the id request.

Someone may still be able to ID this.

Not me though.

Go back out find some fresh and try again.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: paracelsus]
    #18995825 - 10/18/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They *look to be* P. cyanescens. In that lighting, so could G. marginata. Even if I would say I were certain, I will rarely attest to all specimens within a pile of mushrooms when somebody's safety is in question.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: canid]
    #18997178 - 10/18/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I will rarely attest to all specimens within a pile of mushrooms when somebody's safety is in question.




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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18997187 - 10/18/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I see some decurrentish gills in there.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: paracelsus]
    #18997205 - 10/18/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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paracelsus said:

Go back out find some fresh and try again.




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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18997226 - 10/18/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
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canid said:
I will rarely attest to all specimens within a pile of mushrooms when somebody's safety is in question.








All of the mushrooms in the OP are Psilocybe cyanescens.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18997280 - 10/18/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:woah:


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18997340 - 10/18/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:shockedpussy:


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18997377 - 10/18/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
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canid said:
I will rarely attest to all specimens within a pile of mushrooms when somebody's safety is in question.








All of the mushrooms in the OP are Psilocybe cyanescens.



I agree


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: paracelsus]
    #18997408 - 10/18/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure some or even most are P. cyanescens, but a few don't look quite right to me. They could all be ok and if I was there in person looking at them I would feel confident in being able to weed out any non-cyanescens or in confirming all of them. As it is I feel that some could be wrong.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: ambc]
    #18997444 - 10/18/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nah they are all P. cyanescens.

Which ones don't look right to you, and why?


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18997487 - 10/18/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP where do you live?  How did you happen upon these dried mushrooms?  A possitive dark brown/purple spore print would be more appealing..


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18997497 - 10/18/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Actually I'm changing my mind. I think they are all good. The one in the 4th pic, on the left hand side, second from the top where the gills look almost subdecurrent was mainly what I was worrying about but then I thought about it and looked at some dried specimens I have and realized that I had forgotten they can dry to look like that sometimes. Especially when on the younger side, like fully open but not really undulating yet. :thumbup:


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: ambc]
    #18997505 - 10/18/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know you would change your mind when you looked at them more closely.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18997508 - 10/18/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

jet li said:
OP where do you live?  How did you happen upon these dried mushrooms?  A possitive dark brown/purple spore print would be more appealing..




I definitely agree with this, though.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: ambc]
    #18997836 - 10/18/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, cyanescens.:thumbup:  Make sure you see bruising on all specimens.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: canid]
    #18998131 - 10/19/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thanks everyone for the responses.  Sorry about the delay

OP where do you live?
  Seattle

How did you happen upon these dried mushrooms? 
  Walking through a public park, wood-chip beds on an incline.

  A light spore print was obtained while still wet.  It _looked_ purplish black but there wasn't much to see.  I don't think it could show up in a photograph well.  Where water dripped in obscuring the print, it is clearly purplish black.

It is the case that these were open, with the cap margins starting to undulate but not quite fully there yet.  There was some undulation under way when discovered. 


Edited by jackrabbit (10/19/13 12:59 AM)


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18998143 - 10/19/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

jackrabbit said:
Hey thanks everyone for the responses.  Sorry about the delay

OP where do you live?
  Seattle

How did you happen upon these dried mushrooms? 
  Walking through a public park, wood-chip beds on an incline.




Well, it would be wise to get some fresh ones to post for an ID.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18998212 - 10/19/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

will do, ill look for them again.  If the patch has been completely raped (someone was watching me and took note), I think that will answer the question on its own.


Edited by jackrabbit (10/19/13 01:06 AM)


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18998221 - 10/19/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

while that can be confused as sound argument, how do you know they weren't thinking the exact same thing?


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18998235 - 10/19/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure.  Can anyone ever tell for sure, without gc/ms analysis?  What about looking at the spores in a scope?


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18998240 - 10/19/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I mean I would agree they do look like dried P. cyanescens, but so do 5.3 trillion other species of dried mushrooms.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jet li]
    #18998264 - 10/19/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I see what you mean.  I think I'm being overly eager due to the days and days spent in order to find an incredibly small amount, without having the foresight to research the need for photos in the wet state.  I think I'll be writing this one off and am thankful to everyone here for sharing their expertise on this ID.  Better to be sure than die from amatoxin.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [Re: jackrabbit]
    #18998293 - 10/19/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [ round 2 ] [Re: jet li]
    #19000568 - 10/19/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Found these.  Original spot was utterly raped including mycelium except for a couple tiny pins, presumably by the guy that saw me.  Took photos of those.  Then found more, that were undoubtably the exact same strain as last time.  I was prudent enough to get copious photographs this time.  They all bruise blue/black color and are basically identical to OP except in wet form and mostly from different near location.

Does this solve the mystery?



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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [ round 2 ] [Re: jackrabbit]
    #19000784 - 10/19/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yep those are P. cyanescens.


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Re: ID -- PNW cyan? [ round 2 ] [Re: jet li]
    #19000874 - 10/19/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yeah! :rocket:


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