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Pressure cooker, worth it?
    #18995448 - 10/18/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So I've seen some people say that they use pressure cookers to sterilize and that they're very good for that but then a bunch of other people just use a regular cooking pot.
I was wondering if it's really worth it to buy a pressure cooker? This will be my first grow and I've got everything except for the pressure cooker now. There's a place near my house selling them for around $70-120 depending on size and I'm just wondering if for a beginner it'd be best to buy one just in case. Thanks!


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995464 - 10/18/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you're doing the PF Tek, they aren't necessary, but can be beneficial.  If you're doing grains, they are essential.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18995480 - 10/18/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If you're doing the PF Tek, they aren't necessary, but can be beneficial.  If you're doing grains, they are essential.




Sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm doing PF Tek
Maybe I'll just get one just in case  :biggrin:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995483 - 10/18/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Make sure you buy the biggest one you can afford.  :grin:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995486 - 10/18/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Man up and get a pressure cooker. Then dip a ball in it.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: 4nik8]
    #18995498 - 10/18/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's worth the convenience, even with the pf tek. You can use a pc for cooking too, they rock.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18995510 - 10/18/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alright thanks guys, what is a good size? Or should I just buy the biggest one they have in store?


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995529 - 10/18/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Seriously though, get the biggest one you can afford. It's better to have and not need than need and not have.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18995532 - 10/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Worth it?
Yes!
(How can I make the yes blink in seizure inducing colors?)

I often sad laugh at the many newbie posts I see that fret over the exact shape of their PF jars but ignore the PC.
It's possible to grow without one, but knowing your jars are sterile from the start saves effort and money in the long run.
Buy what you can afford, a cheap PC is better than none.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995534 - 10/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say at least 16qt, that's what I've got and it fit enough jars for what I do.  Others like bigger, others like smaller.  You can get a 6qt that you could fit like 8 PF jars in if you don't feel like shelling out the money now.  I've got two cookers, 16qt Presto for bigger projects, and a 6qt for little projects (and cooking).


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18995566 - 10/18/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I imported a Presto 23 quart PC and I love it. Best $155 I've ever invested. :thumbup:
Do it and you wont look back.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Pestile]
    #18995602 - 10/18/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a small one my girlfriend happened to have one and when I do quart jars I have to do them one at a time take me all damn day to do 7 quart jars of get one that at least hold 4 quart jars.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Cb411]
    #18995617 - 10/18/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a small one my girlfriend happened to have one and when I do quart jars I have to do them one at a time take me all damn day to do 7 quart jars of get one that at least hold 4 quart jars.




Switch to pint jars, you can usually fit more pint jars in a batch than quart jars.

Just so you know, you're wasting so much money instead of just getting a bigger one.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18995626 - 10/18/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd say at least 16qt, that's what I've got and it fit enough jars for what I do.  Others like bigger, others like smaller.  You can get a 6qt that you could fit like 8 PF jars in if you don't feel like shelling out the money now.  I've got two cookers, 16qt Presto for bigger projects, and a 6qt for little projects (and cooking).




Alright, you guys have convinced me!
The only store around me that has any big ones in stock is Canadian tire
They have a 16qt one for $120 so I'll pick up that one tomorrow :evil2:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18995631 - 10/18/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Switch to pint jars, you can usually fit more pint jars in a batch than quart jars.



How does this make any type of sense.

It would take just as long to PC the same amount of grains.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18995637 - 10/18/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Check online


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Cb411]
    #18995643 - 10/18/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It might make sense because if the jars were a little skinnier I'd get 3 in unfortunately I've bout about 20 quart jars already I'm going to buy a bigger pc eventually I'm not wasting money though I rent I don't pay for water or stove just waste massive amounts of time


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18995673 - 10/18/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Switch to pint jars, you can usually fit more pint jars in a batch than quart jars.



How does this make any type of sense.

It would take just as long to PC the same amount of grains.




I can fit five pint jars in my small cooker, compared to only two quart jars.

That is 25% more volume being cooked at one time.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18995694 - 10/18/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Switch to pint jars, you can usually fit more pint jars in a batch than quart jars.



How does this make any type of sense.

It would take just as long to PC the same amount of grains.




Both of these hold 7 quart jars, but different quantities of pint jars.  (I've been studying up on this topic)

23-quart canner hold 7 1-quart Mason jars, 20 1-pint jars or 24-half pint jars.

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/Presto-Aluminum-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner-and-Cooker/1014721967?Keyword=pressure+cooker

16-quart canner hold 7 1-quart Mason jars, 10 1-pint jars or 12-half pint jars.

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/Presto-Aluminum-16-Quart-Pressure-Canner-and-Cooker/1014721932?Keyword=pressure+cooker


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: SynKyd] * 1
    #18995735 - 10/18/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A 23qt can hold 10 quart jars.

7 on the bottom and 3 on top of them sideways.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Cb411]
    #18995876 - 10/18/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a small one my girlfriend happened to have one and when I do quart jars I have to do them one at a time take me all damn day to do 7 quart jars of get one that at least hold 4 quart jars.




How small is yours?? That seems little


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: ISuckAtHalo]
    #18995892 - 10/18/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I highly recommend a pressure cooker. I ended up buying a cheap presto 23 quart and im in love with it! I call her big bertha :bashful:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #18996041 - 10/18/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just wondering if for a beginner it'd be best to buy one just in case.



Just in case what? The only reasons I could see to possibly hold off on buying a pressure cooker is if you don't think you'll be moving on to working with grains or you think you'll be able to afford a better by the time you do. No need to rush to buy one just to do some PF jars if you're not even sure you'll be sticking with the hobby yet.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18996055 - 10/18/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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A 23qt can hold 10 quart jars.

7 on the bottom and 3 on top of them sideways.



I can only do 9 in my presto 23 qt...if I try to add a third on top I cant get my lid to close. :confused:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Kizzle]
    #18996058 - 10/18/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I recommend the 23 qt presto off Amazon for $74


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18996075 - 10/18/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18996179 - 10/18/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you are doing PF Tek then it is not necessary - you can normally boil the jars in water (for an hour and a half). Not a bad idea to get one if you have some extra cash though, especially if you move on to more advanced methods.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18996204 - 10/18/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
A 23qt can hold 10 quart jars.

7 on the bottom and 3 on top of them sideways.



I can only do 9 in my presto 23 qt...if I try to add a third on top I cant get my lid to close. :confused:



Are you using wide mouth quart jars or regular mouth?


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18996219 - 10/18/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i got a 16qt presto at walmart for fairly cheap and it works real well. id recommend getting one for sure. saves you the uncertainty of knowing whether or not your sterile procedures are really sterile too. its good to have a little extra confidence on the first grow (:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #18996254 - 10/18/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Are you using wide mouth quart jars or regular mouth?



Wide. Guess that's why.:tongue:


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18996270 - 10/18/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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A 23qt can hold 10 quart jars.

7 on the bottom and 3 on top of them sideways.





Great to know..........I was gonna go with the larger one anyway when I'm ready


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18996408 - 10/18/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Notahacker420 said:

Are you using wide mouth quart jars or regular mouth?



Wide. Guess that's why.:tongue:



Well not exactly.

The wide mouth jars are a tiny bit shorter than the regular mouth jars.

In my mirro 22qt I can fit 7 wide mouth jars on the bottom, and 3 regular mouth jars(or 2 wide mouth jars) on top of those.

I would think the presto 23qt would have just a tad more room.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18996427 - 10/18/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They all fit, but I have to "force" the 3rd on top to lay down all the way...but then I cant get the lid to close right. It may be possible but after fiddling with it for a few minutes with no luck I just said screw it and took the 3rd one out.


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    #18996454 - 10/18/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18998336 - 10/19/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I already had a small pressure cooker from my first experiences and endevours, but I could only fit 4 1-Pint Jars inside and it wouldent even fit a single 1qt -

Waste of money, because even though I still do have it, this time I went ahead and bought a 23 qt, knowing full well I could've gotton by using the small one.

Its a matter of preference, and time / money management.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #18998458 - 10/19/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: udntsay]
    #18998765 - 10/19/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My All American 941 cooker cost about $400 and holds 19 quart jars. 

Don't be afraid to buy a pressure cooker, they are one of the key 

tools for this hobby.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: rumfor69]
    #19000906 - 10/19/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you are going to go all out on anything in this hobby, this is where it's at. I suggest the All American if you can afford it.


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    #19000944 - 10/19/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If i do find myself enjoying it as much as I think I will - I will purchase a pressure cooker like the one mentioned (All American 941) but until than the 23 QT Presto for 75$ will do just fine - but I still couldent imagine using a 8qt or something along those lines especially since they cost around 40-50 dollars I believe...


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19000989 - 10/19/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I bought a 16 qt for now and we'll see how things go!


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19000993 - 10/19/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If i do find myself enjoying it as much as I think I will - I will purchase a pressure cooker like the one mentioned (All American 941) but until than the 23 QT Presto for 75$ will do just fine - but I still couldent imagine using a 8qt or something along those lines especially since they cost around 40-50 dollars I believe...




I started with a 6QT and had no problems for a few PF cakes.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: iamerror73]
    #19001000 - 10/19/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I bought a 16 qt for now and we'll see how things go!




In store, or ordering?

Will this be your first grow using substrate that requires full sterilazation?


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19001035 - 10/19/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I bought a 16 qt for now and we'll see how things go!




In store, or ordering?

Will this be your first grow using substrate that requires full sterilazation?




I bought it in store and yeah it is :tongue2:
I get the day off Wednesday so that's going to be the day where I get everything done and don't have to rush
I now have 100% of the materials that I need for Pf Tek BRF cakes


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19001053 - 10/19/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If i do find myself enjoying it as much as I think I will - I will purchase a pressure cooker like the one mentioned (All American 941) but until than the 23 QT Presto for 75$ will do just fine - but I still couldent imagine using a 8qt or something along those lines especially since they cost around 40-50 dollars I believe...




I started with a 6QT and had no problems for a few PF cakes.




Thats the same size as the one I bought last week. Did you run into any problems with how small it was? When did you upgrade and what to?


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: immure]
    #19001100 - 10/19/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I started with cakes.  Then I started spawning those cakes to bulk.

Then I did pint jars of grains and did trays that I put in my SGFC.

Once I started needing quart jars for tubs I got myself a 16QT Presto.

Never needed anything bigger than that, but some people obviously do.

It was probably a little more than a year before I really needed to upgrade.



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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19002841 - 10/20/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As I will give this warning to anyone buying a 30 Qt 0r 41.5 Qt AA canner/sterilizer, check the listed dimensions to see if they will fit on your range (and make sure it's gas). The height sometimes gets in the way if you have a hood/microwave above your stove.

I learned the hard way. I'm just happy to have gas burners. The 941 has to go outside or in the shop because it is way too big for my indoor range. It goes on a propane burner. The AA1925x Sterilizer just barely fits inside the hood on the indoor stove.

Good luck with your choice. All AA's are made in the USA.


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Re: Pressure cooker, worth it? [Re: bootster]
    #19002913 - 10/20/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the all american 915 is going for 175 right now. it is a 15.5 qt. actually cheaper than the 10 qt right now. I don't really know this is my first attempt at cultivating but i read alot about how all americans are very good pc.


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    #19003768 - 10/20/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

To continue with the PC love I have an All American 921, fits 10 quart jars, it's big but not unweildly and built like a small tank.
It's easily the best purchase I've made for this process and will survive forever.


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    #19004023 - 10/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The presto 23 quart can fit 10 wide mouth just fine no forcing. The three on top fit like a crooked stone henge arrangement.


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    #19004292 - 10/20/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love my AA 75x. Plugs into the wall keeping me off the stove and thus in my wife's good books. Was a little pricy but worth it.


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    #19004509 - 10/20/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

twin  AA 910's and a mini generic from india,
are annies choice for fast turnover.....



gas for performance.

PC required for any serious growing IMO.


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    #19006850 - 10/21/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
twin  AA 910's and a mini generic from india,
are annies choice for fast turnover.....



gas for performance.

PC required for any serious growing IMO.




I have a flat-electric stovetop, its a smooth surface with no contact to the cores...  am I going to run into problems??


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    #19006859 - 10/21/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dealing with the heat? No.  Flat tops should work the same as any other electric.  Dealing with the weight on your glass may cause problems, however.  Check the PC and see if the instructions say you can use it on a flat top range.


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