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fireworks_god
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Re: To own infers an independence from nature? [Re: Icelander]
#18995035 - 10/18/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said: Whether Icelander is insane or not sane doesn't have any bearing on his argument....
You missed a word while formulating that sentence, but I helped you out. It makes much more sense now.
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Re: To own infers an independence from nature? [Re: fireworks_god]
#18995074 - 10/18/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander is obviously insane.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: To own infers an independence from nature? [Re: Icelander]
#19000425 - 10/19/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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FWG said: This kind of crap is against the forum rules for good reason. Not only do I completely disagree with your assessment of his personal nature, but I find your motives for posting this questionable. What was your intention in the way you've formulated these words? What were you setting out to accomplish, and what does that say about your personal nature?
Your comments on my post are accurate and correct. I was definitely out of line, and earned the verbal opprobrium.
They are a clear indication that I need to work on my both my attitude to those who annoy me, and my self-control.
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tymotemousz3 said: Leave the personalisms out of PS&P - attack the idea not the poster. Whether Icelander is insane or not doesn't have any bearing on his argument. You have been around PS&P long enough to know this...
You are correct on all counts. My comments were beneath me, and I am ashamed for my misbehavior.
I apologize to the OP and to the members who were offended by my inappropriate comments. And I appreciate the warning and not being banned.
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Re: To own infers an independence from nature? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19000430 - 10/19/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: I meant Spinoza's rhetorical style, he'd rattle off a bunch of propositions which he believed were self evidently true to make his case, like:
Everything which exists, exists either in itself or in something else.
That which cannot be conceived through anything else must be conceived through itself.
From a given definite cause an effect necessarily follows; and, on the other hand, if no definite cause be granted, it is impossible that an effect can follow.
The knowledge of an effect depends on and involves the knowledge of a cause.
Things which have nothing in common cannot be understood, the one by means of the other; the conception of one does not involve the conception of the other.
A true idea must correspond with its ideate or object.
If a thing can be conceived as non-existing its essence does not involve existence.
This reminds me of one of the "Profound Revelations" that was mentioned in connection with being stoned from a 1970 album entitled 'A Child's Garden of Grass: A Pre-Legalization Comedy.' To wit: "Pickles are the ONLY thing you can make with cucumbers!"
Poor Spinoza, a lens-grinder who eventually dies from years of inhaled glass dust, forced to convert from Judaism to Catholicism, changing his name from Baruch to Benedict in the process. On top of all that, he comes up with infinite varieties of essences, which is no better than positing just one substance, confusing me even as I type.
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Poor Spinoza, a lens-grinder who eventually dies from years of inhaled glass dust, forced to convert from Judaism to Catholicism, changing his name from Baruch to Benedict in the process. On top of all that, he comes up with infinite varieties of essences, which is no better than positing just one substance, confusing me even as I type.
Why don't you change the theme? Making it religious weaken this history, it's junk IMO. Using person A in regards to case X & Z is way more including when communicating.
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Re: To own infers an independence from nature? [Re: Rool Kat]
#19000628 - 10/19/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rool Kat said:
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FWG said: This kind of crap is against the forum rules for good reason. Not only do I completely disagree with your assessment of his personal nature, but I find your motives for posting this questionable. What was your intention in the way you've formulated these words? What were you setting out to accomplish, and what does that say about your personal nature?
Your comments on my post are accurate and correct. I was definitely out of line, and earned the verbal opprobrium.
They are a clear indication that I need to work on my both my attitude to those who annoy me, and my self-control.
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tymotemousz3 said: Leave the personalisms out of PS&P - attack the idea not the poster. Whether Icelander is insane or not doesn't have any bearing on his argument. You have been around PS&P long enough to know this...
You are correct on all counts. My comments were beneath me, and I am ashamed for my misbehavior.
I apologize to the OP and to the members who were offended by my inappropriate comments. And I appreciate the warning and not being banned.
I like your style.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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