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those who speak do not know...
#1899504 - 09/09/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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what's the point of coming here and talking about all this? really...
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Tasty_Smurf_House
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1899526 - 09/09/03 06:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know. Maybe you should ask yourself seeing that you took the time to come here and start your own thread.
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infidelGOD
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1899534 - 09/09/03 06:20 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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those who speak do not know
whoever said that didn't really think it through
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1899558 - 09/09/03 06:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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seriously.
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I don't know. Maybe you should ask yourself seeing that you took the time to come here and start your own thread. actually, i did. and unable to come up with an answer... i figured i'd ask the experts.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1899611 - 09/09/03 06:33 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well it looks like you just answered your own question now doesn't it.
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not yet.
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Anonymous
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see... i'm thinking that you can actually learn alot from thinking and talking and bouncing ideas off of people. you just can't learn everything.
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infidelGOD
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1899690 - 09/09/03 06:48 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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the truth is, most people come here to find confirmation for their beliefs, which is why they get so upset when people challenge them instead.
some are here just to share and learn others want to deconstruct beliefs that they feel are "illogical" and then there are those who come to ask "why are we here?"
I'm sure there are many other reasons for people coming here. I come here mostly for entertainment.
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MOTH
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: infidelGOD]
#1899747 - 09/09/03 07:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been reading the various threads with interest these past few months...although I am mostly a lurker in this forum. I come here to stimulate my mind and to dwell upon ideas or reflections that I ordinarily wouldn't have thought about. I feel like many people here, although their views may differ, are all born of the same womb, so to speak. Weird, but thats how I see it.
-ShadeGirl
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: MOTH]
#1899793 - 09/09/03 07:20 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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maybe you shouldn't generalize and think a lot of people on here think they are "experts" though I don't doubt some think they are. instead of asking why, ask why not. why not come here and express and share ideas. it isn't really about "knwoing" just learning. I come here because people here make me think, and that's a good thing! what's wrong with sharing ideas? to me that's one of the finer aspects of life
-------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
Edited by kaiowas (09/09/03 07:23 PM)
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: kaiowas]
#1899815 - 09/09/03 07:25 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Were you referring to me? Or Mushmaster?
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1900288 - 09/09/03 09:33 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is referring to the Tao. Most of the time, in most circumstances, we cannot know the Tao. Only those who are beyond speaking, beyond thought, like a mountain or a tree for example... only these know the Tao.
So settle yourself down and sit in silence and see what it tells you.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1900345 - 09/09/03 09:49 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by Xibalba (09/29/05 11:41 PM)
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1900369 - 09/09/03 09:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you think you know, Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection, Is it all you want it to be?
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Murex]
#1900386 - 09/09/03 10:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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huh? wha? juhh?
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Adamist]
#1900451 - 09/09/03 10:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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"This is referring to the Tao. Most of the time, in most circumstances, we cannot know the Tao. Only those who are beyond speaking, beyond thought, like a mountain or a tree for example... only these know the Tao.
So settle yourself down and sit in silence and see what it tells you."
seeing that made me smile
-------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: ]
#1900706 - 09/09/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's the point of doing anything?
Why ask questions if you think you already know the answer?
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Shroomism]
#1900906 - 09/10/03 12:45 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think the phrase "Those who speak do not know" was meant to imply that we should all be eternally quiet. The world would a pretty empty place if such a piece of advice gathered popular following.
A better way to express the idea behind that phrase would be to say:
"A wise man who knows he is wise is a fool." Those who take pride in their virtues are not virtuous people. An act of virtue done in boast is sin.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Ped]
#1900915 - 09/10/03 12:48 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good show old droog
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Shroomism]
#1901125 - 09/10/03 03:02 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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if a blind leads a blind both will fall into a pit
i wonder if ill ever get tired of throwing that quote around.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Lazerouth]
#1901170 - 09/10/03 04:25 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Lazerouth said: if a blind leads a blind both will fall into a pit
i wonder if ill ever get tired of throwing that quote around.
I don't know if you will, either, but I just wouldn't recommend showing anybody the path to anything.. for yours and their sake. Peace.
-------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: fireworks_god]
#1901184 - 09/10/03 04:42 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
fireworks_god said: I just wouldn't recommend showing anybody the path to anything.. for yours and their sake.
didnt you read the quote? that is exactly what it's implying.......
actually youd be surprised how many followers you pick up when you have a well defined set of beliefs.
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Lazerouth]
#1901210 - 09/10/03 05:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know that is what you are implying.. For the most part, leading anyone down any Path isn't a good thing..
We are all blind, it is just how much blindness we are infected with that is the issue.. Peace.
-------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Ped]
#1901236 - 09/10/03 05:20 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
The world would a pretty empty place if such a piece of advice gathered popular following.
That's the whole point!
"Empty one becomes still, still one is moved, moved one accomplishes.."
"Nature is like a bellows, Empty, yet never ceasing its supply."
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Adamist]
#1901645 - 09/10/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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for me at least...the point is that i DONT know that's why i come here to get multiple new perspectives on many different ideas
-------------------- *Divine Moments of Truth* "Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead "Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Adamist]
#1901681 - 09/10/03 10:02 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, the good ole Tau Te Ching.
-------------------- I AM what Willis was talkin' bout.
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Ped
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Re: those who speak do not know... [Re: Adamist]
#1901905 - 09/10/03 11:07 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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>> That's the whole point!
Fair enough!
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