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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: zappaisgod]
#18994845 - 10/18/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They must be really old now if they worked at your college when you attended.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995203 - 10/18/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Jesse Ventura was great in Predator, but the guy is a complete conspiracy whackjob. He believes in all that crazy shit. He thinks 9/11 was an inside job. He thinks HAARP is a government weather modification program. He thinks that FEMA has prison camps.
The guy is batshit insane.
NONE of that seems crazy at all when you imagine the power to control storms around the world for 1, to slow down enemy soldier deployment and blot out targeting systems, not to mention the effect on the human mind that a month long storm could cause, winter blues in the tropics because of cloud cover.
Its crazy to NOT believe it is being attempted.
Secondly, 911 has enough secrecy around it to raise an eyebrow or two...
Thirdly, If I was the same government pushing for get article 1020 on NDAA I would certainly have a reason for it, and precautions for mass arrests...
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995214 - 10/18/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Neither.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995215 - 10/18/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Secrecy around 9/11? Methinks you haven't done much research on it.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Mike Zaman]
#18995258 - 10/18/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995261 - 10/18/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Secrecy around 9/11? Methinks you haven't done much research on it.
There were over 100 cameras that caught footage of what hit the pentagon that day... 1 shitty set of stills was released to the public capturing nothing resembling a plane. NOTHING surrounding the pentagon strike that day makes sense when reviewed.
I've done a hefty lot of research on the pentagon strike particularly and researched Hani Hanjour and his lack of flying skills.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995270 - 10/18/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said: There were over 100 cameras that caught footage of what hit the pentagon that day...
Do you have a source for this?
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995295 - 10/18/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said: There were over 100 cameras that caught footage of what hit the pentagon that day...
Do you have a source for this?
You know a "credible" source will be damn near impossible. I dont consider foxnews credible or CNN for that matter so what will suffice?
Also, how many cameras do you think are keeping watch of the pentagon? Do you think the Pentagon would really slack keeping its outer perimeter safe and under watch of cameras?
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995306 - 10/18/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: They must be really old now if they worked at your college when you attended.
They didn't work there
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: zappaisgod]
#18995355 - 10/18/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Then it doesn't really apply. Certainly some of Obama's classmates remember him, too. He married one of them.
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You know a "credible" source will be damn near impossible. I dont consider foxnews credible or CNN for that matter so what will suffice?
Also, how many cameras do you think are keeping watch of the pentagon? Do you think the Pentagon would really slack keeping its outer perimeter safe and under watch of cameras?
So, you're really just assuming that over 100 cameras caught the object that hit the pentagon...
What you don't have to assume however are the dozens of witnesses that saw a plane approach and/or hit the pentagon. Another thing you don't have to assume is all of the plane debris found in and around the pentagon after the crash. You don't have to assume any of that because all of it is out there in the public domain. http://911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77
So much for the "secrecy" you mentioned.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995382 - 10/18/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Then it doesn't really apply. Certainly some of Obama's classmates remember him, too. He married one of them.
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You know a "credible" source will be damn near impossible. I dont consider foxnews credible or CNN for that matter so what will suffice?
Also, how many cameras do you think are keeping watch of the pentagon? Do you think the Pentagon would really slack keeping its outer perimeter safe and under watch of cameras?
So, you're really just assuming that over 100 cameras caught the object that hit the pentagon...
What you don't have to assume however are the dozens of witnesses that saw a plane approach and/or hit the pentagon. Another thing you don't have to assume is all of the plane debris found in and around the pentagon after the crash. You don't have to assume any of that because all of it is out there in the public domain. http://911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77
So much for the "secrecy" you mentioned.
not a credible source 1 Plenty of witnesses attest to seeing no plane 2
The only shred of proof either of us have is an actual testimony from flying school that states Hani couldnt pilot evern the smallest of planes...
Marwan Al-Shehhi: "He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls."
Salem Al-Hazmi: "We advised him to quit after two lessons."
Hani Hanjour: "His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all."
For his flight training in Arizona with his two friends, see ibid. (Feb. 24, 2000, entry citing 265A-NY-280530-IN, serial 4468). Hanjour initially was nervous if not fearful in flight training. FBI letterhead memorandum, investigation of Lotfi Raissi, Jan. 4, 2004, p. 11. His instructor described him as a terrible pilot. FBI letterhead memorandum, interview of James McRae, Sept. 17, 2001. Page 520, 9/11 Commission Report
Same source as you
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Flight_School_Dropouts
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995389 - 10/18/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can out debate the other crackheads on this forum, but I pay attention sir.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995418 - 10/18/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually, you don't pay attention. You can find all of the same pictures of plane debris and statements of witnesses all over the internet.
A witness that DIDN'T see a plane has ZERO probative value. 7 billion people on the planet DIDN'T see the plane hit the pentagon...that means nothing.
Many witnesses DID see a plane hit the building...even more saw plane parts at the crash site. If it wasn't a plane that hit the building, then something hit it, and plane parts magically appeared all over the place simultaneously. That theory makes a whole lot of sense.
And yes, he was a bad pilot. If you look at the data from the data recorder, you'll see that he came in too high to hit the pentagon, so he had to circle to lose enough altitude to hit it...even then, he hit the ground before he hit the building.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995422 - 10/18/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Then it doesn't really apply. Certainly some of Obama's classmates remember him, too. He married one of them.
Michelle went to Princeton.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: zappaisgod]
#18995428 - 10/18/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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She also went to Harvard Law.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995433 - 10/18/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Actually, you don't pay attention. You can find all of the same pictures of plane debris and statements of witnesses all over the internet.
A witness that DIDN'T see a plane has ZERO probative value. 7 billion people on the planet DIDN'T see the plane hit the pentagon...that means nothing.
Many witnesses DID see a plane hit the building...even more saw plane parts at the crash site. If it wasn't a plane that hit the building, then something hit it, and plane parts magically appeared all over the place simultaneously. That theory makes a whole lot of sense.
And yes, he was a bad pilot. If you look at the data from the data recorder, you'll see that he came in too high to hit the pentagon, so he had to circle to lose enough altitude to hit it...even then, he hit the ground before he hit the building.
Are you aware how hard it is to fly a commercial airliner?
The report claimed that one of the engines vaporized and the one that was left over was a fraction of the size it should have been 
That spells nothing close to airliner. 2000 pound steel reinforced engines dont vaporize and they dont shrink.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995434 - 10/18/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe I was talking about Columbia.
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: zappaisgod]
#18995446 - 10/18/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Yogi1]
#18995457 - 10/18/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said: Are you aware how hard it is to fly a commercial airliner?
It's not...particularly after someone else has already powered up the plane, taken off, retracted the gear, and climbed to altitude. It's actually quite easy...Yoke and pedals...not hard at all
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Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? [Re: Enlil]
#18995468 - 10/18/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said: Are you aware how hard it is to fly a commercial airliner?
It's not...particularly after someone else has already powered up the plane, taken off, retracted the gear, and climbed to altitude. It's actually quite easy...Yoke and pedals...not hard at all

I want to continue, but you might understand that I am completely speechless.
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