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Anonymous #1

Thinking of snitching on these guys
    #18991678 - 10/17/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I've been stiffed on a deal, at this party a guy offered some DMT, for my last dose of acid. Probably wasn't the brightest move on my part to give the acid away before holding the DMT, but I have. The guy was friends with the organizer of the party, which seemed an OK person at the time, so I didn't think he'll fail to deliver. Then the shit started. I'll get your DMT in an hour, just let me find these guys so we can go home for it, then an hour turned into 2, 3, 4 and tomorrow. The next day I was dealing with a blood-shot mumbling irresponsible drunk, who couldn't make heads or tails of anything. And I had to be on my way back home.

His friend, the organizer, said he'd take care of it, as in, get me some acid (as I was all out) or some DMT, or pay for a few doses, so it all breaks even. Since he seemed trustable, I let the drunk off the hook, thinking ok, he'll follow through and do as he says, after all it's one dose, it's not his life's savings.

But in effect this never happened. It never happened there, and it never happened later either. I gave these guys my bank account, plenty of time to pay me back, reminded them several times, I told them it's not the money that bothers me, it's the fucking principle, I don't like being lied to, taken advantage of, etc. It's some shit you don't do to fellow trippers.

I repeatedly told the drunk idiot that I'm not his bank, he shouldn't leave it like this, owing me money that he basically got by stealing my last shot of acid, he should borrow from his friends and owe them, as they won't make any problems down the line like I will. To all of this I got promises, broken deadlines and a lot of frustration.

This was all happening in a different city, so I can't just be physically there and make this guy's life into shit, or I would have, absolutely. At least I would have knocked his skinny ass out, given him a few stomps and bruises to cool off and call it a day, restoring balance to the Force.

As it is now, I just can't let it go. It's one lousy dose of acid, but it's been turned into a fucking chain of lies and broken promises that I feel deserves some shit to fall on their heads. I feel it's not ok to lie and steal from fellow trippers, then rely on geographical distance to escape any consequences. So I'm thinking I should make some consequences.

I'm thinking, start putting up ads like "Selling legal highs" with the first guy's phone number as a contact. Not much will actually happen, but he will come to the attention of narcs in his area because of it. I'm sure he and his pothead friends will fuck it up from there. At the very least he'll have to deal with months of paranoia, not having a chill time like he is now, the dumb fuck.

Alternatively, the organizer guy has a larger operation going, probably a lot of acid changing hands, I know he does DMT extractions, if he gets picked up his life might be significantly fucked because of it. I have his full name, I could straight up send it to the cops in his area, explaining in detail what goes on there, though obviously I'd have to hide my IP and otherwise keep my own name out of it.

Now is there any reason why I shouldn't? Normally I'm a non-violent hippie who minds his own business, but these guys I just can't tolerate in their current condition. Thoughts?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #18991698 - 10/17/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Either confront them in person yourself or let the shit go. Snitching is fucked up and a total bitch move. Especially over 1 hit of fucking acid... Its not like they just ripped you off of a few grand (even then it would be unacceptable but at least then it would be understandable).


Edited by Anonymous (10/17/13 04:16 PM)


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Anonymous #3

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18991723 - 10/17/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Despite everything, just don't snitch, its not cool under any circumstances.

One day karma will gift you some free goodies and balance will be restored.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18991740 - 10/17/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

snitches are bitches who get stitches and wind up in ditches and catch poison ivy that itches. Is it worth it for on acid hit?


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Anonymous #5

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18991746 - 10/17/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're gonna snitch over 1 hit of acid?

:dislike:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18991751 - 10/17/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Either confront them in person yourself or let the shit go. Snitching is fucked up and a total bitch move. Especially over 1 hit of fucking acid... Its not like they just ripped you off of a few grand (even then it would be unacceptable but at least then it would be understandable).



Did you read that part about them not living in my city? I'm not paying for a long fucking train ride there and back, to do what? They know and have agreed they're in the wrong, they've now just using the geographical distance to get away scot-free.

Precisely because it's a small amount, they should have paid up and be done with it. I mean fuck, how low can one get? You ask a guy for a favor, he helps you out and then fuck you buddy, I don't give a fuck? To a fellow tripper on a goa party?

The idiot dude, last thing I said to him is OK, you're broke, your friends are broke, whatever. Fine. Don't give me everything in one go. YOu have a week to show up and make a deposit at that bank, ANYTHING, symbolically, just don't let me see that that debt stays the same, from one week to the next. Put fucking $1 in and we're good, I just need to see you get up and do it. He said OK I will. Of course he didn't do it. Based on that kind of behavior and constant shit I think it's not really worth forgiving and forgetting.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18991816 - 10/17/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's not about the fucking acid. It's about being lied to, again and again, and being treated like crap. I've told both of them that no, this will not go away with time, until paid the fuck back, and the easiest thing for everybody involved is to put that fucking money in the bank and go our separate ways. They didn't listen. Like never ever would I bother to do anything more than an angry mail or call.

They've left me literally no choice at this point, except take a loss (from lies and stealing, which I don't want to) or snitch on their dumb asses.

I'd love to beat the shit out of that idiot. This could have been solved months ago with a walk to the bank instead of one to the dealer. Or with a few bruises. But apparently that's not simple enough for some people.

And I have no problem if either of these guys gets busted over this. My job was to give them enough chances to make things right again, which I did. They just didn't give a fuck.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18991862 - 10/17/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Either confront them in person yourself or let the shit go. Snitching is fucked up and a total bitch move. Especially over 1 hit of fucking acid... Its not like they just ripped you off of a few grand (even then it would be unacceptable but at least then it would be understandable).



Did you read that part about them not living in my city? I'm not paying for a long fucking train ride there and back, to do what? They know and have agreed they're in the wrong, they've now just using the geographical distance to get away scot-free.

Precisely because it's a small amount, they should have paid up and be done with it. I mean fuck, how low can one get? You ask a guy for a favor, he helps you out and then fuck you buddy, I don't give a fuck? To a fellow tripper on a goa party?

The idiot dude, last thing I said to him is OK, you're broke, your friends are broke, whatever. Fine. Don't give me everything in one go. YOu have a week to show up and make a deposit at that bank, ANYTHING, symbolically, just don't let me see that that debt stays the same, from one week to the next. Put fucking $1 in and we're good, I just need to see you get up and do it. He said OK I will. Of course he didn't do it. Based on that kind of behavior and constant shit I think it's not really worth forgiving and forgetting.



Then refer back to letting shit go. Type up another long winded reply about why you won't just let it go, don't matter to me. There's no way to justify this, snitching is a bitch move.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18992283 - 10/17/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The more I think about this, the more I find some serioulsy sick pleasure in the idea of these guys getting incredible amounts of shit happen to them, over my hit of acid. Ideally, I hope the first guy who actually took the acid, gets busted and has his fucking shit life ruined, or gets actually wasted in prison. Over months and many messages, I've had ample time to develop these sincere feelings for this useless unemployed fucker. I see no value whatsoever in him being alive.

He has a fiancee. I wrote to that bitch as well, and also she was there at the party to see it for herself, that I'm not making things up. Her dear beloved bum made a deal with me, shook on it like a man, and then started offering bullshit excuses and whining when it came time to deliver. I would take demented pleasure in seeing these piece of shit trailer park people being broken apart, their lives ruined over one lousy hit of acid taken from the wrong guy in the wrong way.

If anything, I'd like to fucking call them once that's all done, and tell them that it was me who did it, and laugh like a fucking madman. That this is why you don't fuck people over, because every once in a while you run into someone that looks nice and peaceful on the outside, but in fact has all manner of sinister shit lurking under the surface, just waiting for someone to cross them the wrong way. Of course that wouldn't be practical to do, as I'd have to look over my shoulder for years and decades to come. But the very thought of causing these people a disproportionate amount of harm fills me with sick fucking joy. I do believe that this fucker should not breed, not make any more fuckeads like himself, and if I could be of any help wiping out his shitty bloodline, that would be fantastic.

Now does anybody have any other ideas besides letting it go and snitching? I'm not unreasonable here, I just hope you understand that these types of feelings don't just go away without some form of expression.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18992998 - 10/17/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Uhm....
I kind of liked the posting his number up saying selling legal highs? Kinda...


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Anonymous #3

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18993095 - 10/17/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, I'd be pretty angry too, and we can all understand why its the principle of the matter and disrespect to you thats more infuriating than the loss of one hit of acid. But seriously, this doesn't sound too healthy. In the big picture of things, all the anger and headspace that you're devoting to this drama ain't worth it. Why go through all this because of one asshole?

Meditate, get wasted, kick the shit out of a punching bag, scream your head off... whatever, just don't perpetuate the situation any further or allow it to consume you. Karma has a way of eventually visiting everyone, including both you and the douche who stole your acid.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18993173 - 10/17/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't read all the replies but here's my opinion...

I would be very angry too, sometimes it's just really hard to let shit like this go.

Don't snitch on him though, the only time snitching is okay is when a woman/child is getting abused, or when an innocent person is possibly going to die.

I personally would just wait it out, you'll probably see them at a party or somewhere someday, unless you guys live REALLY far away.

Or you could always find them on facebook and message their friends/family and tell them he is a thief, but don't say anything incriminating though unless you're using a Facebook that is not linked to your real name. It's a pretty douchey thing to do, but they did a douchey thing to you...


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Anonymous #6

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #18993187 - 10/17/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You could post his number on here and we could


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Anonymous #7

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18993289 - 10/17/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good idea, I'll call him and fuck with him and say if he doesn't make it right with you asap me and my boys are gonna come through and fuck their shit up.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #18993707 - 10/17/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

go about it a better way, dont get the law involved thou.  This sorta thing has happened to me on a few occasions. Talk to them and try to get something in return, but if anything consider it bad credit on their part. itll be their loss in the long run anyways.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #18993940 - 10/18/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If your going to go the crazy ex girlfriend route like a big twat, just slash the dudes tires, don't send him to prison.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18993958 - 10/18/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
This could have been solved months ago




Wait wait wait, this has been going on for months

It's time to forget about it dude.  What did that hit of acid cost you, 5 or 10 bucks?  How many days of your life do you think you're taking off with all this stress?  Is it really worth it?  Forget about it.

Besides, your ideas sound like they could cause some collateral damage to innocent drug users who happen to know these guys.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #18993990 - 10/18/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude... at this point you are giving them the attention they want. There probably never going to pay you at this point. Theres people like that in this world, I will never understand them. Not to long ago i lost a bunch of money that same way. I was trying to get some mushrooms for me and a couple friends. I gave my money to a close friend who new were to get them in town.  I got a call 30 min later that my friend got his ass kicked and the money was stolen. My friend even had a chipped tooth. Shit is lame when you get robbed. I payed all of my friends back. Felt like it was the right thing to do. It may suck but just take it as a chance to learn from you mistakes.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18994007 - 10/18/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
The more I think about this, the more I find some serioulsy sick pleasure in the idea of these guys getting incredible amounts of shit happen to them, over my hit of acid. Ideally, I hope the first guy who actually took the acid, gets busted and has his fucking shit life ruined, or gets actually wasted in prison. Over months and many messages, I've had ample time to develop these sincere feelings for this useless unemployed fucker. I see no value whatsoever in him being alive.

He has a fiancee. I wrote to that bitch as well, and also she was there at the party to see it for herself, that I'm not making things up. Her dear beloved bum made a deal with me, shook on it like a man, and then started offering bullshit excuses and whining when it came time to deliver. I would take demented pleasure in seeing these piece of shit trailer park people being broken apart, their lives ruined over one lousy hit of acid taken from the wrong guy in the wrong way.

If anything, I'd like to fucking call them once that's all done, and tell them that it was me who did it, and laugh like a fucking madman. That this is why you don't fuck people over, because every once in a while you run into someone that looks nice and peaceful on the outside, but in fact has all manner of sinister shit lurking under the surface, just waiting for someone to cross them the wrong way. Of course that wouldn't be practical to do, as I'd have to look over my shoulder for years and decades to come. But the very thought of causing these people a disproportionate amount of harm fills me with sick fucking joy. I do believe that this fucker should not breed, not make any more fuckeads like himself, and if I could be of any help wiping out his shitty bloodline, that would be fantastic.

Now does anybody have any other ideas besides letting it go and snitching? I'm not unreasonable here, I just hope you understand that these types of feelings don't just go away without some form of expression.




Holy shit, dude. Like the guy above me said, how much stress have you caused yourself over time here? You've got all this energy tied up in this resentment over about five bucks and your precious principle(by the way you can't hold other people to your principles, yes you are in the right but that's irrelevant) and you are only harming harming yourself with it.

Just learn your lesson from this which is that you don't relinquish your property in a deal until you know it's solid, or if your expected return is not a sure thing then be willing to accept a loss. I've had much worse happen to me, like the time I gave a complete stranger a ride to his place and he asked me if I wanted to buy some herb, I said yes and gave him my number and he called me later and said he would sell me 9 grams for a "hundo". So I drove down to where he said to meet him and some other sketchy ass dude walks up to my car and I trade him the $100 bill for the sack and he runs off. Then later I see the sack was filled with chunks of hard dryer lint. I called the dude back three times super pissed off and he didn't answer then just realized I had to let it go and learn my lesson. Or the time I had to pay a fucking tow truck company $419 after they towed my car from a fucking empty lot where I'd parked to go to a party. Sure the sign said private parking only but I decided to risk it for convenience. I even went there that night to pick up my car from the tow company but it cost four hundred and nineteen fucking dollars! I could have stewed about that for months, hell I fantasized about burning the fucking tow truck place to the ground, and to this day I fucking hate tow truck drivers. But I didn't let it eat me up. That would have been foolish and harmful to myself.

Internalize your lesson and move on.


Edited by Anonymous (10/18/13 06:45 AM)


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Anonymous #13

Re: Thinking of snitching on these guys [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #18994270 - 10/18/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea man, take it as a lesson learned, that may be more valuable to you down the track that the small price of some acid. Snitching or setting them up is not the way to go.


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