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relsseS
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Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS)
#18992778 - 10/17/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay so due to time constraints, after I rinsed/drained my rye grain like 10 times, then soaked it for a day, then rinsed/drained again, boiled the rye, then steam dried it before packing it into jars, I let the hydrated and boiled rye sit for a day. My jars have covered inoculation holes and polyfil filters on the lids. I'm pretty damn sure they're contaminated, but about 2 or 3 jars didn't seem to have any of this cobweb shit, so I'm pcing them now. Are they gonna be contam too, and should I abort the pc right now?
My question is, can any experts identify this particular contam, and tell me what I did wrong in my rye grain process? Remember, the rye had been cleaned, hydrated and boiled before being put into jars and let sit. Was letting it sit the problem? And are the few jars that seemingly didn't get contam, actually contaminated?
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relsseS
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Re: Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS) [Re: relsseS]
#18993211 - 10/17/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can someone give me insight please.
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Re: Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS) [Re: relsseS]
#18993738 - 10/18/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mucor. I don't know how it could have grown that much a day after boiling the grains. If you have jars with no sign of it they should fine to sterilize and use.
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Re: Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS) [Re: Kizzle]
#18993818 - 10/18/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well it was like 30-something hours.
Can rye grain just be naturally contaminated? I got it from a really dirty feed store and it had bugs in it, so I froze the rye grain for a week and killed all the bugs, and rinsed/drained the rye as much as I could before boiling it. But this shit grew like wildfire before I could even pc them.
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Re: Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS) [Re: relsseS]
#18994153 - 10/18/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I know Cobweb can grow like wildfire, and that certainly looks very similar to the pictures in Kizzle's Guide all about cobweb.
Have you made any other jars with that same grain? It's possible that could have been a Bizzare fluke. Although from the sound of it, you might wanna invest in another store. Finding bugs throughout it doesn't seem like they take very good care of their stock.
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Re: Contam before pc and inoculation? Help (PICS) [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
#18995934 - 10/18/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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All grain is naturally contaminated that's why we sterilize it. I'm sure if you had sterilized it sooner it wouldn't have happened. I'm just surprised though there was that much growth so soon.
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